oneBADDz

iTrader: (26)

He doesn't even want to listen to the cam specialist. It's all in his buddies cam and has NOTHING to do with the heads. . .


EVERYONE is saying it's all about the G5X3, I dunno who this EVERYONE is since we have all told him what the real situation is.

Summit2345

iTrader: (2)

the real reason I want rid of the cam is because a buddy of mine with a stock 6 speed Ls1 camaro that has a lid, and a cat back can stay beside me after third gear and thats what ****'s me off. Im not trying to make anybody mad, and if I did Im sorry, but you would just have to understand what Im wanting its really hard to explain it to you all

LSWannabe

You've got all this and you cant walk a lid/catback car? You could possibly need a tune. Or he's secretly spraying on you, or somethin. That would **** me off too. Fuggin 11 second lid/catback car, NOT!

He's probably got the same intake, but your packing (despite what you think) a good size cam, gears, and longtubes. The only realm of reason I can think is that his car is lighter and can pull longer in those gears, where you have to shift sooner. But you should be pulling his *** when your not shifting, something is up. Make sure your tune is dialed in. Tossing a Trex in will not help. If you dont want to listen to these guys, who know encyclopedias more than I do, then just get your buddies exact milled heads and cam.

Summit2345

iTrader: (2)

no he has a LS1 intake and I have the Ls6, and yes I know that I should be pulling him thats why I hate this cam now and want something better. Thats why im not just going to stick a set of heads on it.

jermzz

iTrader: (18)

Cut your losses now and go big cubes.

oneBADDz

iTrader: (26)

your cam has more in it. You will need heads even worse with a bigger cam. Get the heads now instead of making the problem worse. Then you will at least be closer to what you want to achive than if you change cams. If you still want a bigger cam lalter, at least you'll be set up for it.

Mr.MartyStone

iTrader: (12)

Instead of formulating a response as soon as you read something, sit back and digest the information. You are using what is called the law of small numbers. You have the advice of many who have been there telling you to get heads, mill and flycut, but you want a bigger cam because one person has a larger cam than you and you just so happened to drive that person's car. You need to pull from the wealth of information off this board with many different setups than basing what you want off of 1 car. Your cam is not the problem, the problem lies between your ears.

Bust out your wallet and get some heads or at least pay some money for a decent tune.

Marty

Summit2345

iTrader: (2)

Buddy, I planed on getting heads no matter what. This cam is a good cam, and probably better with heads, but I'm still going to get heads even when I change the cam I'm not just going to put a different cam in there, and hope for the best. I'm putting heads along with the new cam at the same time. The reason I don't want this cam anymore is because if I can get out ran by a stock Ls1 than I think that there has to be something wrong there don't you think, because the car use to run a **** ton better with out the cam, and you can keep your smart *** comments to yourself OK!

onebadZ28

These guys are right man. Spend the money on a good set of heads. Measure your valvetrain to get the right specs you need like pushrods, PVC, mill the heads if you choose. Flycut if necessary, you want to have correct valvetrain geometry, get your compression up so you can bust that catback lid car right off the line and then have the high rpm cam to keep pulling while he is shifting. What you need to do is sit back and listen to what these guys are telling you because they are not telling you wrong by no means. Just work on completing your setup and optimize it by paying attention to the small details.

Mr.MartyStone

iTrader: (12)

Once again, go back and re-read my statements. Then digest them. There is nothing smart *** in nature about fact. I suggested having your car retuned. Hell you may have something as minor as a fouled plug causing all the headaches with not being able to run with a stock ls1.

Lastly understand that the board is here to help you, not hinder you. If you think I'm only a smart *** in disguise then you are confused. I don't complain, condemn, or criticize others as part of who I am. So rethink my statements that were directed at helping you.

When is the last time you had your car on the dyno? Have you put it back on to see if it is down on power at all? Something is seriously wrong with your setup.

Marty

SSTowerman

iTrader: (1)

I just looked at your mods list on your car domain. Just my .02 here because I've got the same cam with full boltons and a tune. NO HEADS or GEARS yet. The other night I smoked an LS1 lid and catback car by friggin bus lengths. It wasn't even close but it is fun to see the huge difference my mods made.

I concur with everyone else prety much. Do a set of heads and ported tb. After a tune you should be in the 450rwhp range for sure. Also, be prepared to shell out some coin for 12 bolt because your running DRs no matter which way you go. Hell, I just thought of something else. Is your clutch stock? Do you think it's slipping? That's lost HP right there too. I put in a textralia when I did my mods. You'll be needing one of those(a clutch) before too long also. LOL. Man, you still got some coin to spend.

Honestly, your the first poster I've ever read about wanting to "upgrade" from a T2. Rethink your current setup and maximize it. The cam is fine. How high do you really want to spin your setup anyway? T2 has plenty of duration and lift. It's not a small cam.

Good luck man.

LS1rulz

iTrader: (1)

I hope you spit it as high as it needs. The higher the better.

LSWannabe

Yeah, but it's not the cam. I'm assuming it was at least eyeballed dot to dot. You have yet to mention your tune.

LS1rulz

iTrader: (1)

Sure he mentioned his tune long ago. We have the same tuner.

LSGunZ28

iTrader: (8)

Listen to the people saying (A SET OF HEADS) that is gonna gain you a whole lot more torque in all RPM ranges. and torque X RPM/5252 = Horsepower.

you will have a more powerful car with heads, just do it!

Also I didnt check your mods, do you have a ported T/B?

LSGunZ28

iTrader: (8)

he set of heads are whats gonna help you. another cam will either put your torque curve at a higher or lower level. The heads are whats gonna allow the cam to breathe better and make it more driveable, if tuning isnt an issue. and its gonna feel better all around.

Mr.MartyStone

iTrader: (12)

That really doesn't prove much. You both have the same tuner but that doesnt mean that his car is running like a top. Have it looked at and put it back on the dyno to see if it is down on power.

I have the same lca's as others but I don't 60' the same as them. I have the same injectors as a lot but that doesn't mean that we get the same gas mileage.

I hope you guys can find the problem with the car and not just throw more parts at it. Something is wrong with the setup plain and simple.

Marty

Summit2345

iTrader: (2)

yeah its the cam making it run like crap

1slow98Z28

iTrader: (3)

maybe its the driver???


why not do the heads n see how that helps n still not like it then do a new cam..... want sumthin good go TRex and get heads n be done with it

Summit2345

iTrader: (2)

Its not the driver we are both pretty equal on driving skills. Because I'm no longer confident in this cams performance. I have been considering going big and being done with it also, but I don't want to be to wild.