The "recipe" to 500 rwhp with heads and cam.
11-24-2011, 12:14 AM
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Thanks for the welcome...we are trying one last combo this weekend to see if we can get another 2 or 3 HP. Does anybody know the record for a stock low end NA ls6 car?
11-24-2011, 07:28 AM
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Those heads are perfectly capable of getting you to 500rwhp with stock short block. But you can't cut corners on the supporting mods. The exhaust has to be done by the book. The valve control needs to be outstanding at 7000 rpm. The intake can have no chokes in it and the FAST better be ported by a master. Like I said, making the power is easier than it was 5 or 6 years ago. Cams are better. Heads are better. Intakes and headers are better. But too many of you still cut corners with the whole supporting mods. That's why so many fall short. If you follow the recipe and have it tuned by a pro, you should have no problems hitting the number.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
11-27-2011, 02:34 AM
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I have a stock bottom end LS6 that has made 508.92 rwhp. It has been checked on 2 different Dynos and is within 2hp from an Eddy current to a Dyno Pak. The car has 20k miles on the low end. I have tried multiple combinations on this car and squeezed about all the HP that is there on this car.
11-27-2011, 07:01 AM
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11-29-2011, 12:50 AM
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Patrick, I just got me the TR Trak Cam, I'm looking to get good heads for it, How much cc can I mill my stock 241 heads with stock valves for that cam to clear PTV? For later on the road, Would AFR 205 62cc clear PTV?
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12-14-2011, 12:12 AM
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Those heads are perfectly capable of getting you to 500rwhp with stock short block. But you can't cut corners on the supporting mods. The exhaust has to be done by the book. The valve control needs to be outstanding at 7000 rpm. The intake can have no chokes in it and the FAST better be ported by a master. Like I said, making the power is easier than it was 5 or 6 years ago. Cams are better. Heads are better. Intakes and headers are better. But too many of you still cut corners with the whole supporting mods. That's why so many fall short. If you follow the recipe and have it tuned by a pro, you should have no problems hitting the number.
12-14-2011, 05:26 AM
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I've been considering using those heads seeing how they are the same heads as the shops 9.66sec car. I noticed in your posts that you prefer AFR heads that Tony custom ports for you, does this gain more midlift flow vs the 227 off the shelf? I've pm'd you before regarding my setup and you mentioned that my exhaust setup would not be good to 500 rwhp. Exhaust will be 1 7/8 lt's 3" true duals with x pipe. Is the tsp 100mm Maf considered a choke? Ill be using a 104mm lid.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
12-16-2011, 04:21 PM
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How can you calculate how much to shim the springs to avoid valve float as I saw you've done on your setup? Also is it possible to possibly go with a head that's to big? I'm split between tsp 227 and AFR 210 or 230's.
12-17-2011, 09:15 AM
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Read this>>> http://www.kmotion.biz/instht.htm
.060 from coil bind is what most recommend. A lot of people just slap the springs in and go but this is really how it should be done...
01-02-2012, 10:37 AM
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because there are so many people in this thread. the scr, dcr calculator that was made a few years ago dosent look like its working. whats the ivo and ivc of a 231/231 117+3
01-02-2012, 06:46 PM
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I have 227cc heads, ms3, and a fast 102/102, kooks lts 1 7/8, kooks true duals, 104 ftp lid, tsp 100mm maf. Have not had it dynoed yet. I hope i can get close to 500. It should i hope.
01-02-2012, 08:32 PM
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Patrick G: If you were building a 500+ recipe today in your old M6 WS6 with a 5.7 LS1, what would your "recipe" be?
What do you think you could gain by upping it to a 383?
What do you think you could gain by upping it to a 383?
01-03-2012, 03:07 PM
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Patrick G you need to get with tony and write Ls Horse power for dummies book because this one simple thread put a lot of things I have learned in the past year into perspective and made them easier to grasp.......Thanks
