2002 Escalade engine into Camaro swap HP/TQ ???
#63
I finally got the built tranny in and dynoed the car.. Overall, I was pretty happy with the results considering the 3.73s and the stall with Zr1s.. I suppose I could have done a few tricks and easily been to 400hp with the stock heads.. Also my A/F was a little off.. My timing is also 26 d.. I'm thinking about taking 93Ponys suggestion and retarding the cam 4-5 degrees since it had +2 ground in and we added +2 more.. Should pick up some more power.. The CNC LS6 are being smoothed out and will be on the car soon.. Anyway, here are the results.. I dig torque!
#64
just a thought, but i think ur lack of bottom end and top end is ur 111LSA... go to a 113 or 114 and u'll gain back both top and bottom, as it will spread the power out instead of concentrating it in the middle...
#65
*Flash back to 5/11/03*
Apology accepted.
Seriusly, slap a real cam in that thing already. Good luck, Shawn
Originally Posted by Bigeller
Essentially it's going to have all the bolt ons, cam, headers, stall. I would think 450+ HP and Tq are possible
Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
With that motor and only a cam, you would probably get to about 380-400RWHP
Originally Posted by Bigeller
Anyone else care to chime in. I don't think the spank man has a clue.. I'm gonna put down some power..
Apology accepted.
Seriusly, slap a real cam in that thing already. Good luck, Shawn
#66
Too bad you didn't read my thread..... I had different gears in mind back then.. I'm not really going to get into excuses... Stock gears and stock rims and fix the A/F get me past 400 easy.. The LS6 heads will get me 30 maybe more.. And the cool part is that my torque will remain even with the hp.. I'm not a sucker for the most peaky cam I can buy.. I'm happy with my lil ole 228 for right now..
#67
Originally Posted by bigeller
Too bad you didn't read my thread..... I had different gears in mind back then.. I'm not really going to get into excuses... I'm happy with my lil ole 228 for right now..
Stock gears and stock rims and fix the A/F get me past 400 easy.. The LS6 heads will get me 30 maybe more
#69
Whats up eller! It's cold here in KC. Don't you miss the midwest! Don't listen to the winers . Everyone thinks thier way is the best way. I say, more power to ya. In fact, I just purchased myself a 6.0 motor. I think there is definatly potential in that combo, especially considering the cost. That 4" is just straight killing ya. Get some Lanes duals and watch what that torque curve does! Good luck and keep us updated!
Ezra
Ezra
#70
Eller good job with the car man! Don't listen to all the naysayers in here, they act like people didn't run around with iron block iron headed smallblocks for the past 30 years.
Also the iron block is about 60-70 lbs. more than the aluminum, not 100+ like Spanky seems to think. Guess what, you can get a cute girl that weighs 120 pounds in the passenger seat, and does that slow your car down so incredibly much that you wouldn't want her in the car? Hell no. Enjoy the big 6.0 man!
Also the iron block is about 60-70 lbs. more than the aluminum, not 100+ like Spanky seems to think. Guess what, you can get a cute girl that weighs 120 pounds in the passenger seat, and does that slow your car down so incredibly much that you wouldn't want her in the car? Hell no. Enjoy the big 6.0 man!
#71
Originally Posted by Cricket99SS
Eller good job with the car man! Don't listen to all the naysayers in here.....
Originally Posted by Cricket99SS
Also the iron block is about 60-70 lbs. more than the aluminum, not 100+ like Spanky seems to think.
Originally Posted by valvegod
Not sure why the weight on this block is always so different when I read posts. I have weighed both block many many times, and this is what I always see on my shipping scale. both have main caps and main bolts.
Aluminum LS1/LS6 block 107 lbs.
Cast iron 6.0L block 214 lbs.
Diff 107lbs.
Shaun (valvegod@aol.com)
Aluminum LS1/LS6 block 107 lbs.
Cast iron 6.0L block 214 lbs.
Diff 107lbs.
Shaun (valvegod@aol.com)
#72
I have been owned. I see the thread where that came from now. I do trust Valvegod since that is the first time I've actually heard of someone putting them on a scale rather than guessing at the weights.
It still stands though that an iron block is not that big of a deal. Through all the years up to the LT1 it was iron/iron or iron/aluminum heads for most Chebby's. If he was going for an all out race setup, he could take weight from other places and make it up.
Now if he was an auto-xer or road racer he probably wouldn't have opted to go iron, but for what he is trying to do I'm sure it will be great.
It still stands though that an iron block is not that big of a deal. Through all the years up to the LT1 it was iron/iron or iron/aluminum heads for most Chebby's. If he was going for an all out race setup, he could take weight from other places and make it up.
Now if he was an auto-xer or road racer he probably wouldn't have opted to go iron, but for what he is trying to do I'm sure it will be great.
#73
Wow, is every one here that dumb when it comes to cars? Everyone shut up!!! "Oh but the weight, the weight, the weight.."
Shut up you fools! See this is the kind of crap that made me leave this damn site, loosers who think they know what they are talking about when they don't! The reason for the 6.0L swaps is the fact the block is much stronger, compression is lower, and better for turbo, N2O, and SC. This engine is also great for those who want more cubes too (More crank clearence). The stock LS1 block sucks compared to the 6.0L, and yes, it adds a little more pounds to the ride, but if you are a serious power seeker, then this block is the nest for that. This is the cheaper alternative to the C5-R block, can be made for 427ci too. (CR-5 is still a better block just egg-spensive )
Now shut up you damn 15 hundred posts in 2 months *** holes! You are post ******, and try to post something that makes more sense than......"Is this a joke?" Thanks for contributing you asses!
Shut up you fools! See this is the kind of crap that made me leave this damn site, loosers who think they know what they are talking about when they don't! The reason for the 6.0L swaps is the fact the block is much stronger, compression is lower, and better for turbo, N2O, and SC. This engine is also great for those who want more cubes too (More crank clearence). The stock LS1 block sucks compared to the 6.0L, and yes, it adds a little more pounds to the ride, but if you are a serious power seeker, then this block is the nest for that. This is the cheaper alternative to the C5-R block, can be made for 427ci too. (CR-5 is still a better block just egg-spensive )
Now shut up you damn 15 hundred posts in 2 months *** holes! You are post ******, and try to post something that makes more sense than......"Is this a joke?" Thanks for contributing you asses!
#74
WOW.I just read all of this. um. I still don't understand why everyone is so upset. His car makes good power and he did something different. I am wanting to do the same thing but I am gonna drop at least a 200 shot on it.
#75
damn get off his nuts, he did something "Different" and I applaud him for it....while yes the extra weight will hinder the block and all can take a lot of abuse to get him into the 10's and poss. 9's.....
#77
Hey Ezra, good to hear all is well.. I may try out some duals.. Eat some of that fine KC BBQ for me.... Pork Ribs... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Originally Posted by 11secLS1
Whats up eller! It's cold here in KC. Don't you miss the midwest! Don't listen to the winers . Everyone thinks thier way is the best way. I say, more power to ya. In fact, I just purchased myself a 6.0 motor. I think there is definatly potential in that combo, especially considering the cost. That 4" is just straight killing ya. Get some Lanes duals and watch what that torque curve does! Good luck and keep us updated!
Ezra
Ezra
#78
"The reason for the 6.0L swaps is the fact the block is much stronger, compression is lower, and better for turbo, N2O, and SC. This engine is also great for those who want more cubes too (More crank clearence)."
Well he never said this is why he wanted to use it.
If he would have, he wouldn't have been owned so bad.
Well he never said this is why he wanted to use it.
If he would have, he wouldn't have been owned so bad.
#79
You're kidding me... Where did I get owned? LOL Why don't you read he first post I made.... I got an amazing deal on the 6.0. I set my goal of 450 hp NA... At the time this thread started, I hadn't even decided on a cam, gears, heads and other mods at that point... I was simply asking for advice and input.. people have pmed me wondering about my numbers, so I posted them like I said I would. Now I get some guy that thinks he knows it all saying I told you so... WTF? My car runs friggin hard and I'm nowhere near through with it. Hey Spanky, tell me how much power I gain if I get my A/F tweaked correctly, my timing bumped from 26 to 28 degrees, stock rims, stock gears, LS1 crank instead of a solid truck crank, and LS6 ported heads? Seems like your a sucker for peak numbers.. All I'm saying is judge me when I'm through if anything. I wasn't concerned with peak numbers. I dynoed the car as it was, gears and all.. I'm able to take these things into account. No offense taken... BTW looks like you have a pretty stout setup, you should be runnin low 11s...
Originally Posted by z98
"The reason for the 6.0L swaps is the fact the block is much stronger, compression is lower, and better for turbo, N2O, and SC. This engine is also great for those who want more cubes too (More crank clearence)."
Well he never said this is why he wanted to use it.
If he would have, he wouldn't have been owned so bad.
Well he never said this is why he wanted to use it.
If he would have, he wouldn't have been owned so bad.