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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Whats up guys. I've been reading alot on the site all morning and still can't find the answers I'm looking for so figured I'd ask in a post and sorry if its a stupid question (begginer).

I took a 2400 stall outta my A4 last year. Went back to the stock converter. Liked the driveability and gas mileage better.

Well now, im about a week away from buying a cam, probably a Torquer 2 cam on a 112.

I'm wanting to know if as long as the car is tuned, will this cam be a great choice for my car without a stall and will the driveability be pretty good ?

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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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I would say that you will likely have a lot of problems with the stock stall.
There will be issues with idling, surging, and low mph cruising I'll bet. You will be leaving a lot on the table as far as performance goes.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Not to mention it is going to want to push through the brakes when sitting at stop lights and stop signs.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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224/224 on a 114 is the biggest I would go for driveability
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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yup that cam is not going to like that stock stall, kinda reminds me of when i had the ms4 on the stock stall/gears!
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Dude if you have been reading, then you should know that pretty much the first real performance mod you should do to an auto is a stall. So if I were you, I would put that 2400 back in if you still have it. If not, buy a nice 3-3500 stall and call it the day. You will get much more out of that than just a cam.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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it seems like u were headed towards a mod project, then made a u-turn heading back to stock, now youre talking about making yet another u-turn to modding again. the higher stall puts your daily driving in a higher rpm range. a cam with higher duration and lift shines at higher rpms than the stock cam. in other words, the cam relies on a stall that can get and keep the car into a higher rpm range where the cam can do its job. your stock stall is gonna have trouble keeping you in your power band. i wouldnt even consider a cam with the stock stall. there my $.02
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Raise,

I agree. I've had a hard time debating about keeping the car, and been trying to sell it on and off again, but now that its back to driving and not breaking something every other day, I have been really thinking about starting some mods again.

I just wanna have some sort of "descent" gas mileage.

Guess I'm off to TCI's webiste...
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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why not just juice it, alot cheaper and you keep yoour milage and the extra power when you want it?
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Raise,

I agree. I've had a hard time debating about keeping the car, and been trying to sell it on and off again, but now that its back to driving and not breaking something every other day, I have been really thinking about starting some mods again.

I just wanna have some sort of "descent" gas mileage.

Guess I'm off to TCI's webiste...
That would be the website to stay away from. Go to VIG or Yank
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Yank SS3200 with some 3.42s or 3.73s would provide very decent street manners with the T2 or F13 from Futral.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
224/224 on a 114 is the biggest I would go for driveability
Very true, I ran a 218/222 in mine with the stock converter and 3.23s and it was about as far as I would go without buying a converter. I only gained 25rwhp on the cam which was still a good gain in general but not in terms with what some cams give ya.

Driveabilty is a relative term that varies greatly by what an individual considers to be driveable......
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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That would be the website to stay away from. Go to VIG or Yank


My Yank SS3600 drives very tight around town, and thats with a 2.73 gear in the rear. I will be stepping up to 3.73s very soon. Yanks are known to drive tighter than competitors. Then again, Vigilante is supposed to offer a great converter too.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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i have a vig 3600 and it feels loose like a goose with the 2.73 gears in the back!
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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For the original poster, what are your current mods? If you thought the converter had an adverse effect on fuel economy, you'll probably end up disappointed with the cam you are looking at.

If you want economy, leave the stock cam, get some good heads (AFR, DART, TFS) an LS6 intake, headers and a tune. If you must have a cam, stay at 220 or less if fuel economy is really a concern.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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i know once i sliped the 3600 in my mpg took a ****... but i wonder if it's becuase i have them tight gears in the back
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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I ran a Yank 3600 for awhile but had to take it out to pass emissions in Calif. The test is performed on dyno and requires the RPM to stay steady at 1500 and 2500 under load. The motor RPM wandered trying to engage the rollers at rpms well below stall.

I settled for a milder cam and the stock converter. I think the next big mod will be to convert to a manual transmission. If not I'll switch converters every two years.
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