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View Poll Results: Which one is better suited for my goals?
F13
28
44.44%
Torquer 2
35
55.56%
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Torquer 2 vs. F13
Torquer 2 vs. F13 Just curious as to what the general public would vote for. I have a feeling it's going to be pretty close but i'm still curious.
F13 230/232 .595/.585 112LSA
Torquer 2 232/234 .595/.598 112LSA
My goals are as follows:
- low to midrange powerband
- 400 HP, more would be excellent
- really good lobe sound (mmmmm, chug-a-chug)
- aggressive
- budget is around 1 grand (not including tune or installation, unless i can squeeze by w/ a cheap but good tune, unlikely)
Specs are:
LT Pacesetters (dual cutouts on 3" Y-pipe)
3.73 rear
Lid
.... that's all that seems important enough
F13 230/232 .595/.585 112LSA
Torquer 2 232/234 .595/.598 112LSA
My goals are as follows:
- low to midrange powerband
- 400 HP, more would be excellent
- really good lobe sound (mmmmm, chug-a-chug)
- aggressive
- budget is around 1 grand (not including tune or installation, unless i can squeeze by w/ a cheap but good tune, unlikely)
Specs are:
LT Pacesetters (dual cutouts on 3" Y-pipe)
3.73 rear
Lid
.... that's all that seems important enough
Last edited by Vrbas; Jul 30, 2007 at 03:00 AM.
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I saw allot in LS1tech.com use Torquer v.2, where i can see it this cam is very impressive.
if you want to go above 400 rwhp my choice is TSP MS3. an aggressive camshaft with a 237/242 .603/.609".
if you want to go above 400 rwhp my choice is TSP MS3. an aggressive camshaft with a 237/242 .603/.609".
Originally Posted by ELMiN8oR
I saw allot in LS1tech.com use Torquer v.2, where i can see it this cam is very impressive.
if you want to go above 400 rwhp my choice is TSP MS3. an aggressive camshaft with a 237/242 .603/.609".
if you want to go above 400 rwhp my choice is TSP MS3. an aggressive camshaft with a 237/242 .603/.609".
what about the F14 isn't it a little bigger then the t2... i have mine sitting in the closet waiting to go in... for some reason the futral website says its 232/234, when my cam card says 234/234....
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I say go for the highlift f14 or use the ms4. I had a tsp 231/237 and the driving characteristics of my ms4 is the same as that cam and the same as my buddies 228/232. I didnt have to alter my valvetrain too much to run the ms4. I just did a spring swap and ran some chromemoly pushrods. Which the same thing your going to have to do when swap cams anyways. Get the ms4 and run the prc springs that are good to .660 lift. The ms4 makes more power up top and down low over the ms3.
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Originally Posted by Vrbas
My goals are as follows:
- low to midrange powerband
- 400 HP, more would be excellent
- really good lobe sound (mmmmm, chug-a-chug)
- aggressive
- budget is around 1 grand (not including tune or installation, unless i can squeeze by w/ a cheap but good tune, unlikely)
- low to midrange powerband
- 400 HP, more would be excellent
- really good lobe sound (mmmmm, chug-a-chug)
- aggressive
- budget is around 1 grand (not including tune or installation, unless i can squeeze by w/ a cheap but good tune, unlikely)
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/683617-do-any-shops-market-small-cams-anymore-why-not.html
Last edited by MM98; Jul 29, 2007 at 06:53 PM.
Originally Posted by MM98
If you're wanting low to mid range power, then I don't think these are really the best choices... My TV2 pulls hard but not until 4k & up, so imo I think something in the range of 224 through 228 would be a better choice... Plus they're have been plenty of people making 400+rwhp with smaller cams like these & on stock heads... Take a look, this is a great thread.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683617
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683617
F13 here, great cam for daily driving, and makes great power. i got mine on a 110LSA/ICL. i figure my power range to be between 2200-6300 +/- a couple hundred Rpm. great cam man, sounds good too! 
take it from me man. i used to run a F14, almost the same specs as the TV2 just different lobes. drove that cam for almost 2 years, (stock gears 3.42) it was fun at first but after awhile and in stop in go traffic it could get annoying not to mention the cam didnt really come around till about 2800-3krpm. anything below that was pretty powerless. i decided to change b/c i wanted the lower/midrange power back. granted i only changed 2 degree's I/E but it being on the 110LSA/ICL really shifted my RPM range lower. it might not seem like that big a difference, but having the power come in 1k rpm lower really was nice for daily driving, taking off from lights/stop signs, just nice having that power back lower in general. it made the car more enjoyable to drive. thats just my opinion of it though. i guess some guys dont mind it as much and dont see the power loss down low as that big a issue. to me it was, especially for a car i truely daily drive. as in no other car to get me from home to work ect.
Jon
take it from me man. i used to run a F14, almost the same specs as the TV2 just different lobes. drove that cam for almost 2 years, (stock gears 3.42) it was fun at first but after awhile and in stop in go traffic it could get annoying not to mention the cam didnt really come around till about 2800-3krpm. anything below that was pretty powerless. i decided to change b/c i wanted the lower/midrange power back. granted i only changed 2 degree's I/E but it being on the 110LSA/ICL really shifted my RPM range lower. it might not seem like that big a difference, but having the power come in 1k rpm lower really was nice for daily driving, taking off from lights/stop signs, just nice having that power back lower in general. it made the car more enjoyable to drive. thats just my opinion of it though. i guess some guys dont mind it as much and dont see the power loss down low as that big a issue. to me it was, especially for a car i truely daily drive. as in no other car to get me from home to work ect.
Jon
Last edited by ProjecT 9; Jul 30, 2007 at 11:07 AM.
My vote goes to the F13. But if you are looking for the most low and midrange hp and tq i would go with something a bit smaller. The F13 doesnt start to come alive till about 4500rpm but from there on it pulls like a beast. I wish i had more down low tq and hp but i guess you have to give up one to have another.
Originally Posted by PunkNPonys
My vote goes to the F13. But if you are looking for the most low and midrange hp and tq i would go with something a bit smaller. The F13 doesnt start to come alive till about 4500rpm but from there on it pulls like a beast. I wish i had more down low tq and hp but i guess you have to give up one to have another.
4500rpm??? you must have retarded that thing like 18 degree's or something...
Originally Posted by ProjecT 9
4500rpm??? you must have retarded that thing like 18 degree's or something...
