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Old 07-31-2007, 07:17 PM
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umm 346 inches doesnt make 455 lbs of torque on a mustang dyno, unless its a silly correction factor that Im not aware of. We have the same dyno, Im pretty familiar with it. 470/450 on ours would trap 130 easy full weight

Im sure its making great power, but thats a little off in numbers, not that they mean anything to begin with
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Originally Posted by AshWS6
umm 346 inches doesnt make 455 lbs of torque on a mustang dyno, unless its a silly correction factor that Im not aware of. We have the same dyno, Im pretty familiar with it. 470/450 on ours would trap 130 easy full weight

Im sure its making great power, but thats a little off in numbers, not that they mean anything to begin with
I was told by both Pat and Kurt that the #'s might be a bit off BUT only about 2-3 on hp and maaaaaybe 10 on TQ. However, because the pulls were one after another without cool down and it being 97+ degrees, I would gain that right back in cooler conditions with cool downs between each pull. The only way to know for sure is to take my exact same set up, and put it in another car and run that one. They may not be exactly the same but if they are close then we would know its not a fluke and it's just that combo that happens to work well.

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Damn awesome numbers thats alot of TQ for 346ci.
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BTW What is the engine CR?
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11:5:1 or 11:6:1 I have to ask Jason cuz I forgot.

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Originally Posted by steveo346
there was no need to touch his pistons on this setup......reat numers petey pablo.....rudy and i are here patiently waiting for you to take us for a spin....dan helped?....haha j/k dan

yeah rudy did a good job putting this setup together and props to patricio guerra for the sweeeeet tune....cant wait to see this bad boy at the track......vroom vroom boom!!! there goes the stock 10bolt....hahahaha
Just out of curiosity, did you measure the p/v clearance? I am running almost the identical setup and was just curious how close it was going to be. I will be running the same gaskest with the stage 2.5 5.3's and a similar cam except with 228 int duration and a 110 LSA. Also, do you know what intake center you guys installed that one at?
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Again man awesome numbers I had the Trak and I loved it Enjoy the car.

I have to make sure Dynojet or Mustang dyno?
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Originally Posted by AshWS6
umm 346 inches doesnt make 455 lbs of torque on a mustang dyno, unless its a silly correction factor that Im not aware of. We have the same dyno, Im pretty familiar with it. 470/450 on ours would trap 130 easy full weight

Im sure its making great power, but thats a little off in numbers, not that they mean anything to begin with

I was thinking the same thing but didn't want another dyno fight. But it will be neat to see the trap speed.
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Texas dynos guys. Texas dynos.
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Texas dynos guys. Texas dynos.
Its not their dyno's its their air. I think they have nitrous in the air down there.
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I will clarify the dyno numbers. I have been working on my dyno calibrations so they will report dynojet numbers but was not finished. Because everyone wants to see dynojet numbers. Several shops do this with their mustang dynos, that is why when some report mustang dyno numbers they can be confusing (some high/some low).

I have proven my mustang dyno numbers with my adjustment to be within 1-2rwhp on a dynojet. On Petes graph above, we wanted to give him a graph that would be similiar to a dynojet, but since I did not have the calibration 100% complete we told him that his graph is a little on the high side and it should be around 465/448. If Pete puts it on a dynojet those are the numbers he will see.

So if anyone has issues with the numbers above come to me and try to keep his thread clean. I have been working with the Mustang Dyne rep on making the dyno report dynojet numbers. Soon I will have the abilty to report mustang numbers and dynojet numbers.

Kurt

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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Its not their dyno's its their air. I think they have nitrous in the air down there.


I wish... we normally have 4800-6000DA's up here (3200ft actual elevation), really sucks for racing N/A. Everyone knows all the good N20 air is down in Houston.

BTW nice numbers.
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Im in SA you more than welcome to repeat the numbers on my dyno. For all the haters.
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Great results man! I thought only the small runner heads made big torque?
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
Great results man! I thought only the small runner heads made big torque?
Joseph, you know it's as much about airspeed as it is about cross sectional area. The PRC stage 2.5 243 heads were outstanding in this area. Hats off to all involved in their production.
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That 2nd post wasn't me Patrick, I guess I should remember to log out after lunch.
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
That 2nd post wasn't me Patrick, I guess I should remember to log out after lunch.
LOL! The compliment goes to Trevor, Jason, Jon and the rest of the crew as well.
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Originally Posted by BOWTIE
Just out of curiosity, did you measure the p/v clearance? I am running almost the identical setup and was just curious how close it was going to be. I will be running the same gaskest with the stage 2.5 5.3's and a similar cam except with 228 int duration and a 110 LSA. Also, do you know what intake center you guys installed that one at?

That's something Rudy will have to answer. I believe he knows the answer to both. Hopefully he will chime in.
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Originally Posted by 98Aggie
I will clarify the dyno numbers. I have been working on my dyno calibrations so they will report dynojet numbers but was not finished. Because everyone wants to see dynojet numbers. Several shops do this with their mustang dynos, that is why when some report mustang dyno numbers they can be confusing (some high/some low).

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So if anyone has issues with the numbers above come to me and try to keep his thread clean. I have been working with the Mustand Dyne rep on making the dyno report dynojet numbers. Soon I will have the abilty to report mustang numbers and dynojet numbers.

Kurt
Thanks Kurt.


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