Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Critique my 383 build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:17 AM
  #1  
PewterZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, MO
Default Critique my 383 build

Weber Racing is putting the finishing touches on my motor today. It should ship tomorrow and hopefully I will get it on Monday. I've been waiting for nearly four months (not Weber's fault) so I'm very anxious to get her installed and running! Everything has been well thought through and I expect some pretty stout numbers (track and dyno). Only thing I am a little concerned about is quench but I think I will be ok there also.

Here's all the info:

LS1 block
3.905 bore
3.910 head gasket bore
4.000 K1 stroke crank
6.125 K1 light weight rods
-8.8cc Wiseco custom pistons
-0.014 PTD height
0.054 stock head gaskets
58cc ETP 225 heads w/ 2.080 and 1.570 valves
FTI 237/241, .632/.612, 113 LSA, 109 ICL

So quench is going to be .040, SCR is 11.51 and DCR is 8.67. Should be a good combo for street/strip use, right?

Stock bottom end with these same heads and cam made 443/400 SAE corrected. That was through a TH350, 8" converter and a 12 bolt with 4.10 gears! Not to mention I had valve train issues! Unfortunately I never got to run that setup at the drag strip for several reasons but a 10.4 or 10.3 seemed likely considering the car went 10.85 with exactly 40 less horsepower and torque.

Now with more cubes I am hoping for 475 rwhp and low low 10's at the strip.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #2  
PewterZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, MO
Default

Also, I should have some solid dyno data on some American Racing Headers. The plan is to first tune and dyno the car with my current exhaust system, 1-3/4" FLP long tubes into 3" true duals with x-pipe. Then I am going to swap it out with a brand new set of ARH 1-7/8" long tubes into 3-1/2 to 4" ORY into a 4" Magnaflow muffler. I am hoping to gain at least 10 rwhp while maintaining rwtq. We'll see though.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:44 AM
  #3  
JakeFusion's Avatar
Super Hulk Smash
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,258
Likes: 146
From: Pace, FL
Default

I'd keep the true duals and X-Pipe and just run the AMH 1-7/8" with 3" collectors. I'd even look at Kooks 1-3/4" to 1-7/8" Stepped headers as well.

Also, I'd go with a 4.030" bore gasket to match your heads, so if you wanted to keep GM gaskets, just get some for the 6.0L or LS2. Or, Cometic .051" or .054" that are 4.030" would work.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:49 AM
  #4  
PewterZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, MO
Default

The heads are 225 small bore heads. So 3.9 bore. Also, I already bought the ARH headers and y-pipe so I'm at least going to try them.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:06 PM
  #5  
miami993c297's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
From: West Palm Beach fl usa
Default

Waiting to read about your results...

Christian
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 09:53 AM
  #6  
TA2SLOW346's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
From: belleville IL
Default

Derrick how come you went with dished piston? Didnt want to run over 12-1 compression?
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:30 PM
  #7  
PewterZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, MO
Default

Actually they are flat top. I wanted to stay on pump gas for several reasons. At this point I just want something that is going to hold up for a few seasons. I haven't raced since last October!
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:43 PM
  #8  
chad rock's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Default

My 383 has more torque from down low through the mids but several 346s with same heads and cam have only a few less hp than I do.Im still running a ls6 intake with stock tb and 75mm maf. They say the long stroke really suffers without a fast 90 90 setup.One day I will have the extra cash to get it
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 09:17 PM
  #9  
SSdreamz's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: York, PA
Default

same boat as you CHAD ROCK... i also think the 4.030 bore gasket will be better... when the block gets hot...aluminum expands.... i wouldnt want my gaskets to get in the way.. thats why i went with the 4.030 bore gaskets... my engine builder reccomened them
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:35 AM
  #10  
1997bird's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
From: Aztec, NM
Default

You really only need about 0.010" extra clearance on your bore to keep your piston's from possibly hitting the head gasket. That is what I was told by Cometic anyway.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:41 AM
  #11  
TA2SLOW346's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
From: belleville IL
Default

Originally Posted by PewterZ28
Actually they are flat top. I wanted to stay on pump gas for several reasons. At this point I just want something that is going to hold up for a few seasons. I haven't raced since last October!
How is it a flat top with -8.8cc? My dished 8.8cc pistons used to look like this.
Attached Thumbnails Critique my 383 build-forsale-007.jpg  
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 10:16 AM
  #12  
PewterZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 0
From: St.Louis, MO
Default

My bad. They are dished pistons. Originally we were going with flat top with -2.2 cc valve reliefs. That's why I got confused.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:16 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE