Cal

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It should if you get the cam on a 114 LSA, but it will be close. There was actually someone that posted they had passed a 226 or 228. I'm going to try a TR224 on a 114. I think even a TR224 on a 112 should pass, but with a lot less margin. Of course all of this is assuming you get a good computer tune. I have LS1edit so I will be doing it myself. I sure hope I'm smart enough.

Cal

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Well if you were going to swap cams every time, the LS1 would be the engine to do it on; lots easier than with the old SBC. If you get an ARP crank bolt, then you could do it without replacing the bolt every time. I'll bet you could get pretty good at it after a few times. I've actually considered doing this as well. I'd get something on a 112 if that were my plan.

SmaknaSS

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I'm just going to stue on it for awhile, Ether emissions or somthing that will work well for my M6 aplication. I'll make 50% of my desition on how much dificulty is involved swapping cam's every two year,s and thanx for all the replies guy's.

Cal

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Well don't stew over it too long, the Thunder GP is over after June 12!

Fahad

You're right but you must know there is a difference between the M6's & A4's & if the car for daily drive and you've A4's with 112LSA it's not problem but is not a good idea.

Thanks

02 'Hawk

I'm getting the 224 114 and emissions are a concern. I'm also having it dyno'd/EDIT as well, after the cam/headers install. I'm confident it will be fine on emissions with tuning, probably close without (114) and it will make good power and won't idle too bad either--you'll be able to tell it's cammed, but it will be mild.

Chris

02 'Hawk

Really? Just 10?

Cal

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Actually it seems like what he said was 5 to 10hp; and that's peak. But you have to consider the whole curve from 2500 up will be producing more hp and torque than before, and the rpm range would be extended quite a bit also. Plus those using the TR220 114 say it sounds almost stock; now I want my car to sound different after I spend all the time, money, and work installing a cam.

02 'Hawk

Understand.

Siggy33

ahhhh damn you guys. i was set on the tr220, and now i want the tr224 on a 114lsa or maybe even just get the LG G5X-2 and just swap in the old stock one when smog time comes around (and proly my LTs too ). :p now im all mixed up again.

now im thinkin about the tr224 114LSA. but im kinda confused as to what you mean by "good tuning." dont most tuners do the same thing (and just to let you know, i have NO idea what that is)? is there any difference between a tune that would help me to pass smog and a dyno tune or "performance" tune? can someone help me understand this a bit better? i dont really want a "mail order" tune, is there any other way to go? ok im just rambling now..ill stop, please help.

Cal

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There's some shops that can do good PCM tuning, or you can do it yourself with LS1edit if you really bone-up on how to do it. Most of the information you need is here in the tuning section and on the LS1edit message list. A smog tune and performance tune would be close to the same, except that you would want to program your fans to come on no sooner than stock so the motor will be good and hot. You could also bump up the idle speed to the max (1200) for an emissions tune.

Siggy33

could i just have a good place do the overall tuning for the cam and such and then leave the things like idle speed and fan turn on temp to me so i can adjust them for smog or performance?

and also, how risky do you think the 224 will be?

Cal

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I'm sure you could do that as long as you have a way of changing the things you want to change, like LS1edit, Preditor, or HypertechIII. The Hypertech will change fans but not idle speed, however; not sure about Predator. LS1edit would be the best to get, but the most expensive.

ss rally red

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What method of testing does Ca. use for OBDII cars? Our Emissions program in Ga. is supposed to patterned after Ca.'s,and we just scan the computer only,Does Ca. also use ASM dyno testing on 96 up?

jhelms

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My 224/224 (.581) 112LS idles fine with no t/b porting (BBK t/b). Also the power peak is very realistic (closer to 6k than 7k).

I'd recommend something in that range, 220 too small.

Siggy33

cal, yeah ill be gettin LS1 edit, so that wont be a problem.

ss rally red, i think out here in CA we do both, but im not sure. how will this affect me?

ps sorry for all the questions, i just dont know a lot about these strict smog laws, im from back east...

DinoZ

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Ok, another twist to this... I currently only have a lid and muffler, and dyno'd 335/353 (runs 12.6's@111)
If I were to go with either a 222 at 114, or a 224 at 114, what is the estimate that you guys would say that I would see, as far as rwhp increase. (Oh, and I'll most likely be doing the JetHots with hi-flo cats at the same time, but I'm interested in how much I'm getting from just the cam)

I8COBRA

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I was running a 222/222 .560 114+2 cam until the bottom end blew up

Yesterday I ordered TR's 224/224 .563 114+4 cam, I'm hoping to gain 5hp after the new engine breaks in.

Cal

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You should get a solid 30hp out of the 224, then another solid 20hp after computer tuning. Could be more, could be less, but that's about what I would guess . . .

02 'Hawk

Cal, Fab Y with the cats or can you buy? lemme know, leaning that way on exhaust for mine also.

Chris