TR 224 -114 LSA or TR220-114 LSA
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thanks Cal, im just not too sure that the 224 will pass emissions over here in CA
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Yea, that's my problem! I would rather have the TR224/112, but I want to pass emissions also, That's why I was thinking of using the 220/114. How hard is it to pull the cam when I't comes time for emisstions time? Also in orange county califonia Iv'e seen from time to time to what appeared to be a portable dyno at the side of the road with cop's pulling people over at random to check thier car's emisstion's!
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I'm just going to stue on it for awhile, Ether emissions or somthing that will work well for my M6 aplication. I'll make 50% of my desition on how much dificulty is involved swapping cam's every two year,s
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Anybody passed a TR224 on a 112 LSA?
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I'm getting the 224 114 and emissions are a concern. I'm also having it dyno'd/EDIT as well, after the cam/headers install. I'm confident it will be fine on emissions with tuning, probably close without (114) and it will make good power and won't idle too bad either--you'll be able to tell it's cammed, but it will be mild.
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Paul from Thunder was quoted in another thread as to have said there is 10 hp difference between the TR220 and the TR224.
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Paul from Thunder was quoted in another thread as to have said there is 10 hp difference between the TR220 and the TR224.
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ahhhh damn you guys. i was set on the tr220, and now i want the tr224 on a 114lsa or maybe even just get the LG G5X-2 and just swap in the old stock one when smog time comes around (and proly my LTs too
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now im thinkin about the tr224 114LSA. but im kinda confused as to what you mean by "good tuning." dont most tuners do the same thing (and just to let you know, i have NO idea what that is)? is there any difference between a tune that would help me to pass smog and a dyno tune or "performance" tune? can someone help me understand this a bit better? i dont really want a "mail order" tune, is there any other way to go? ok im just rambling now..ill stop, please help.
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now im thinkin about the tr224 114LSA. but im kinda confused as to what you mean by "good tuning." dont most tuners do the same thing (and just to let you know, i have NO idea what that is)? is there any difference between a tune that would help me to pass smog and a dyno tune or "performance" tune? can someone help me understand this a bit better? i dont really want a "mail order" tune, is there any other way to go? ok im just rambling now..ill stop, please help.
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There's some shops that can do good PCM tuning, or you can do it yourself with LS1edit if you really bone-up on how to do it. Most of the information you need is here in the tuning section and on the LS1edit message list. A smog tune and performance tune would be close to the same, except that you would want to program your fans to come on no sooner than stock so the motor will be good and hot. You could also bump up the idle speed to the max (1200) for an emissions tune.
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could i just have a good place do the overall tuning for the cam and such and then leave the things like idle speed and fan turn on temp to me so i can adjust them for smog or performance?
and also, how risky do you think the 224 will be?
and also, how risky do you think the 224 will be?
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I'm sure you could do that as long as you have a way of changing the things you want to change, like LS1edit, Preditor, or HypertechIII. The Hypertech will change fans but not idle speed, however; not sure about Predator. LS1edit would be the best to get, but the most expensive.
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What method of testing does Ca. use for OBDII cars? Our Emissions program in Ga. is supposed to patterned after Ca.'s,and we just scan the computer only,Does Ca. also use ASM dyno testing on 96 up?
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My 224/224 (.581) 112LS idles fine with no t/b porting (BBK t/b). Also the power peak is very realistic (closer to 6k than 7k).
I'd recommend something in that range, 220 too small.
I'd recommend something in that range, 220 too small.
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cal, yeah ill be gettin LS1 edit, so that wont be a problem.
ss rally red, i think out here in CA we do both, but im not sure. how will this affect me?
ps sorry for all the questions, i just dont know a lot about these strict smog laws, im from back east...
ss rally red, i think out here in CA we do both, but im not sure. how will this affect me?
ps sorry for all the questions, i just dont know a lot about these strict smog laws, im from back east...
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Ok, another twist to this... I currently only have a lid and muffler, and dyno'd 335/353 (runs 12.6's@111)
If I were to go with either a 222 at 114, or a 224 at 114, what is the estimate that you guys would say that I would see, as far as rwhp increase. (Oh, and I'll most likely be doing the JetHots with hi-flo cats at the same time, but I'm interested in how much I'm getting from just the cam)
If I were to go with either a 222 at 114, or a 224 at 114, what is the estimate that you guys would say that I would see, as far as rwhp increase. (Oh, and I'll most likely be doing the JetHots with hi-flo cats at the same time, but I'm interested in how much I'm getting from just the cam)
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I was running a 222/222 .560 114+2 cam until the bottom end blew up ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
Yesterday I ordered TR's 224/224 .563 114+4 cam, I'm hoping to gain 5hp after the new engine breaks in.
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Yesterday I ordered TR's 224/224 .563 114+4 cam, I'm hoping to gain 5hp after the new engine breaks in.
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Ok, another twist to this... I currently only have a lid and muffler, and dyno'd 335/353 (runs 12.6's@111)
If I were to go with either a 222 at 114, or a 224 at 114, what is the estimate that you guys would say that I would see, as far as rwhp increase. (Oh, and I'll most likely be doing the JetHots with hi-flo cats at the same time, but I'm interested in how much I'm getting from just the cam)
If I were to go with either a 222 at 114, or a 224 at 114, what is the estimate that you guys would say that I would see, as far as rwhp increase. (Oh, and I'll most likely be doing the JetHots with hi-flo cats at the same time, but I'm interested in how much I'm getting from just the cam)