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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I'm planning on doing a head and cam swap on my 99 vette FRC. My horsepower goal is 500hp at the crank and I'm wondering if I should go with head bolts or head studs? Would OEM bolts be ok for this application or should I go with ARP bolts or go with the studs?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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I'm planning on doing a head and cam swap on my 99 vette FRC. My horsepower goal is 500hp at the crank and I'm wondering if I should go with head bolts or head studs? Would OEM bolts be ok for this application or should I go with ARP bolts or go with the studs?
I would for sure go with ARP. I hate the damn TTQ stock head bolts. I have the ARP bolts on my trans am because I was told that the studs made it hard to get the heads off of an F body. The vette has more room so you may be ok with the studs. Either way ARP is the way to go.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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I have ARP head studs on my F body and the heads come off easy ,it does look like it would be tight, but its not.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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studs, so much stronger and easier to deal with.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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studs for the win
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Another vote for studs. In addition to the relative ease of the torque sequence, they are easier on the block than torquing a bolt into the block. Over time and repeated torquings (is that a real word), the threads in the block could weaken, and lets face it, once you've removed the heads the first time, subsequent times become easier, and having the studs in the block make it that much easier. No fluid in the bolt holes to clean out, no cleaning the threads time and time again. Other than the additional cost up front, there is no reason not to use studs on a performance motor.
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Another vote for studs. In addition to the relative ease of the torque sequence, they are easier on the block than torquing a bolt into the block. Over time and repeated torquings (is that a real word), the threads in the block could weaken, and lets face it, once you've removed the heads the first time, subsequent times become easier, and having the studs in the block make it that much easier. No fluid in the bolt holes to clean out, no cleaning the threads time and time again. Other than the additional cost up front, there is no reason not to use studs on a performance motor.
+1 Just for not having to clean the bolt holes! All the other reasons are almost and added bonus.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Another vote for ARP Studs. As soon as that head slides down over the studs, follow the torque sequence and you're good. They work like a charm.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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I personally like Bolts but thats always been on Iron blocks, with the LS1, I dont think I would have a choice in the matter. Plus any crap that gets in the bolt holes could crack the block.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Studs all the way here too.
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this may sound dumb... but what's the difference between a bolt and a stud when it comes to this?
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A stud is a threaded rod for simplistic terms, that you thread into the block or wherever it's going and then use a washer and nut on top to apply the clamping force. A bolt is pretty obvious.


Those are studs, that go into the block, the head sits on top of them, then you top them off with a washer and a nut .
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
A stud is a threaded rod for simplistic terms, that you thread into the block or wherever it's going and then use a washer and nut on top to apply the clamping force. A bolt is pretty obvious.


Those are studs, that go into the block, the head sits on top of them, then you top them off with a washer and a nut .
I see... so basically the studs will always stay in the block... thus keeping water/coolant or whatever from getting into the holes... so you just unscrew the nut/washer when taking off the heads... whereas the bolt unscrews completely and the whole thing comes out... right?
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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I just did this job on a C5 and I'm not sure you're gonna clear the brake booster if you use studs. It depends on how much they stick up out of the block. If they are as long as some I've seen you'd better stick with the bolts. The heads tuck up under the firewall also. Just a side note also...With the ARP bolts you have to go back and re-torque after a heat cycle. The stretchies don't require that.

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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Studs F T W
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I just did this job on a C5 and I'm not sure you're gonna clear the brake booster if you use studs. It depends on how much they stick up out of the block. If they are as long as some I've seen you'd better stick with the bolts. The heads tuck up under the firewall also. Just a side note also...With the ARP bolts you have to go back and re-torque after a heat cycle. The stretchies don't require that.

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The heads will ABSOLUTELY clear everything under the cowel with the studs in place. Actually, you have to install the passenger side studs first prior to putting the head on the first time because once the head is on, you can't put in the rear studs.

There is no reason other than the cost (which isn't that bad) not to run studs.
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what's the cost typically? I'm getting my lifters changed, so that means the heads are getting pulled.
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studs are around $230 or so plus shipping
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Studs are the ones you want, Hands down.
I would also use a pen magnet to place the nuts on the studs when installing your heads unless you have tiny hands.
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