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Old 11-07-2007, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by whitetaws6
The MS4 is a much larger cam, it will produce much more power through out the whole rev range,
Uhhh. You must be confused. A big cam like that gives up low end for top end. That 224 is going to be much stronger on the bottom end than what the MS4 will be. If it was as easy as the bigger the better then picking a cam wouldn't be so hard. Cams are a compromise.
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Thanks Rocks hahaha...Brad I hear what your saying and it is magic my car is F A S T and it does not have a blower either. I never said that LPE had Thunder Racing Cams???? I swapped it out years ago ......BB
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rock WS6 im not confused i have an MS4 and it males plenty of torque, you need to look and the difference in operating range for the cams, the 224 will be a great street cam, but the MS4 makes more trq, just at a higher rpm, the 224 will be a much more streetable cam for sure
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You said that it would produce more power throughout the whole rev range, not sure if that's what you meant to say but that's incorrect. It would make more on the big end of that I would have no doubt but throughout the whole rev range, don't think so.
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Check out the media section and type in 10.36.... it should bring up John's pass in his silver TA. Its an Iron 370 with an MS3 cam and Patriot Stage III heads with a FAST 90/NW 90 and a 125 shot. just check him out and look at his set up, pretty good little combo and he drives the thing around a bit too.. I dont know if he has had it dynoed, but the proof is in the pudding, you can WATCH him run a 10.36 right here on tech.
thats great..... i tuned a 02 ws6 cam-only+200shot with supporting mods, it went 10.4 @132 and its a M6, look him up his name is 02nbmws6 on the board. the cam was a 232-234 112 lsa+0

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yes i did mess up by saying whole rev range
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Thanks for all the info fellas......BB
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Hey Ryne was that a MS4 on that 02 WS6 that you did up??????? BB
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:11 PM
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well, in his defense, you had better hold on to something... he was running the little 3.23 gears with that car in a 10 bolt... if he had a gear that would match that cam, it would have been MUCH stronger, but that cam only, 200 shot time is sick... ESPECIALLY with a manual. I would be DAMN proud of that time!
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Well, heres the thing benny boy... im sorry for being kind of a *****, but honestly, boasting a bogus dyno number about your car is lame, and its one of my BIGGEST pet peeves... Great, you have an LPE package... its got worked over 241 heads, your LS6 intake, and a few other goodies, but its not a 500 whp kit... and swapping your 224 cam in place of their cam probably didnt make any power... post up a dyno graph from YOUR car with those mods, and show me it made 495 Rear Wheel horsepower... then I will shut up.
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Originally Posted by Benny Blanco
Damn its sounding like iam goin with the MS4 my car is a beast in its current set up I put down a little over 490 to the REAR and thats with my TR CAM..I cant wait to see what my baby will put down with the MS4 ??????......BB SVTKILR Boise Id LINGENFELTER SS
there is no way to make that power with a 224 cam on a N/A motor.
stop bullshitting. this is not highschool.
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495 Crank Hp Is Probaly What They Mean...

I Got A Ms3 Cam And Ported 5.3l Heads Every Bloton Included A Ported Fast 90 Setup

I Made 430 Rwhp Thru A 4000 Stall(unlocked) So You Could Say 450-470 Rwhp (m6 Car)

And Thats Good Power.....

Btw I Spin To 6700 With A Ms3 Which Actually Revs Higher Than The Ms4
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I Know A Buy With A Top Notch 347 And A 224 Cam Hes Only Makeing 410 Ewhp And Thats With Afr Heads And The Works ....

Simply Put 495 Is Out Of The Question Patrick G Made About That With A Monster Cam And A Lightweight Drivetrin\vavetrain On Top Of Hand Ported Afr Heads That Were Even Portmatched To The Intake On A Built Motor

I Really Dont Think Anyone Is Gonna Beat That.....as Its Safe To Say He Pulled Out Every Stop To Get Those Umbers
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lol, he says CLEARLY and in upper case letters(lol) that he made that number to the rear, which I am assuming he means rear wheels... more like pulled that number out of his rear....
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lol, he says CLEARLY and in upper case letters(lol) that he made that number to the rear, which I am assuming he means rear wheels... more like pulled that number out of his rear....
I have seen bennys car run in person and he beat my friends heads and cam 450rwhp heads and cam car......im pretty sure hes spraying
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SPRAY who me??????? Nah I didnt even have to spray on your boy that was all motor homie if you want me to spray!! next time I will but I will have to call nitrous Dave and get a new set up LOL I sold my last set up. Bradly did I ever mention that i had some spray for yall asses hahahahahaha.....wanksta..BB
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490 rwhp with a tr224 in a 346 no spray? lets see the graph

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SPRAY who me??????? Nah I didnt even have to spray on your boy that was all motor homie if you want me to spray!! next time I will but I will have to call nitrous Dave and get a new set up LOL I sold my last set up. Bradly did I ever mention that i had some spray for yall asses hahahahahaha.....wanksta..BB
you got your *** kicked alot growing up didnt you?
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Nah I cant say I ever got beat up Iam a bad **** mexiCAN HOMIE!!! Aint nobody puttin hands on me unless they want to get put to sleep ..a HTX go back in your double wide and go drink some Pabst blue ribbon..lol...BB
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Originally Posted by Benny Blanco
Nah I cant say I ever got beat up Iam a bad **** mexiCAN HOMIE!!! Aint nobody puttin hands on me unless they want to get put to sleep ..a HTX go back in your double wide and go drink some Pabst blue ribbon..lol...BB
and you have fun in your single wide... with your "495 HP" in the drive way.
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