Iron stroker?
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Re: Iron stroker? you don't NEED new rods. I'd get them looked at by a machine shop, though. Diamond has some off-the-shelf pistons in 4.100" I think...they means they'd be closer to 500 for pistons with pins and rings...i could be wrong though.
382 all bore = 4.100" bore, stock 3.622" stroke.
382 all stroke = 4" stoke, stock 3.9" bore.
there are variations of course.
382 all bore = 4.100" bore, stock 3.622" stroke.
382 all stroke = 4" stoke, stock 3.9" bore.
there are variations of course.
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Re: Iron stroker? Ryan:
So an all bore motor is preferrable to a all stroker, right?
I wonder about the cost? A 4" crank about $2K, pistons about $600, machine work about $400, right?
The all bore is $2.8K for the block, $600 for pistons, and $400 for machine work, right?
So an all bore motor is preferrable to a all stroker, right?
I wonder about the cost? A 4" crank about $2K, pistons about $600, machine work about $400, right?
The all bore is $2.8K for the block, $600 for pistons, and $400 for machine work, right?
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Re: Iron stroker? How much weight is added by sleeving an aluminum block? Both dry and wet... Those integrated-deck Darton sleeves look to displace allot of aluminum, I'd be curious to see the difference in weight then.
Re: Iron stroker?
Are these really boat anchors?
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Re: Iron stroker? Ive seen 12.5-plus with an iron block I think.
For HP, all bore
For TQ, all stroke
Street? Its preference...but I still don't trust all bore aluminum jobs...call me paranoid. If you don't mind the weight, go with an iron 408, I wouldn't (personally) pay for a $2K cranks...but whatever..
and if you by a sleeved block...you shouldnt need any machine work that I know of.
For HP, all bore
For TQ, all stroke
Street? Its preference...but I still don't trust all bore aluminum jobs...call me paranoid. If you don't mind the weight, go with an iron 408, I wouldn't (personally) pay for a $2K cranks...but whatever..
and if you by a sleeved block...you shouldnt need any machine work that I know of.
Re: Iron stroker? My only question is how are you two so retarted with such a hi post count. I dont understand you two. You are willing to pay $2800 for a resleeved block, but not $2k for a crank. Then you want to go with an iron block buy the crank, and pistons but not get rods. Whats up with your thinking? If your going to do something do it right the first time. These motors arent cheap. You have to pay to play.
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Re: Iron stroker?
My only question is how are you two so retarted with such a hi post count. I dont understand you two. You are willing to pay $2800 for a resleeved block, but not $2k for a crank. Then you want to go with an iron block buy the crank, and pistons but not get rods. Whats up with your thinking? If your going to do something do it right the first time. These motors arent cheap. You have to pay to play.
I actually recommended a 346-348 setup first, then a 39x" setup using an $800 crank and $400 block. But whatever you want to talk **** about 100-post boy. I would NEVER pay 2400 for a bare block or a crank. I could build a whole SBC for that.
Re: Iron stroker? ALL TO HIS OWN. Just cause my whole 100 posts pises you off doesnt mean i dont know ****.
Your the one whos pissed off........ doesnt bother me your mad..... Do things the way you want and when they blow up in your face ill be waiting here to laugh at you. Now you have a nice day. I have better things to do then argue on the net.
Your the one whos pissed off........ doesnt bother me your mad..... Do things the way you want and when they blow up in your face ill be waiting here to laugh at you. Now you have a nice day. I have better things to do then argue on the net.
Re: Iron stroker? Im not runnin nowhere except OVER U.
Your so smart you didnt even see why i went with that cam. Im not worried about N/A power. Just want it to hold togeather long enough till i do my bottom end. MTI just tuned to tide me over till my D1-SC is on.
Your so smart you didnt even see why i went with that cam. Im not worried about N/A power. Just want it to hold togeather long enough till i do my bottom end. MTI just tuned to tide me over till my D1-SC is on.
Keep it on topic. 
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Re: Iron stroker? Yeah I saw your cam. Its a weak attempt at an FI cam. You will learn one day....oh, and your HP is still weak.
ok, back on topic.
My pics for a motor (idependent of H/C/I)
346
396-iron
382-alum.
414-iron
422-alum.
my choice would be to sacrifice $$$ cubic inches and go solid roller; i.e. i'd take a 346 sr vs. a hyd 396. If you can afford both...more power to ya.
ok, back on topic.
My pics for a motor (idependent of H/C/I)
346
396-iron
382-alum.
414-iron
422-alum.
my choice would be to sacrifice $$$ cubic inches and go solid roller; i.e. i'd take a 346 sr vs. a hyd 396. If you can afford both...more power to ya.
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Re: Iron stroker? Has anyone worked with the guys in Austrailia - come@comeracing.com?
....they have a nodular iron 4" crank for $950 USD....
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Do you realise we are in Australia?
We manufacture a nodular cast iron crankshaft in 4.00" stroke to suit
the Chev LS-1 engine.
We also manufacture a matching "I" or "H" beam (both)4340 steel conrods
to suit our crank.
Our crank has Ford 302W rod journal diameter and width. Our conrods are
6" centre to centre length and we are waiting for a custom made cast
alloy piston to suit our combination for steet use (arriving very soon).
We will offer customers a complete crank, rod, cast piston package
including, rings, bearings, new steel/alloy keyed harmonic balancer and
flywheel assembly. Balance is external like a 400ci Small Block Chev,
Ford 302 etc.
You are welcome to buy only the crank and use whichever rod/piston
assembly you prefer. The crank only is $950.00 U.S and is available from
our distributor in the U.S Marvin Miller Manufacturing in Whittier
California.
They do not have stocks yet but will in the next month or so.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further queries.
Sam Blumenstein
"Bartsch, Robert" wrote:
>
> I'm interested in a stroker crankshaft for an LS1 engine. Please let me
> know if you are manufacturing these.
>
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....they have a nodular iron 4" crank for $950 USD....
***************************
Do you realise we are in Australia?
We manufacture a nodular cast iron crankshaft in 4.00" stroke to suit
the Chev LS-1 engine.
We also manufacture a matching "I" or "H" beam (both)4340 steel conrods
to suit our crank.
Our crank has Ford 302W rod journal diameter and width. Our conrods are
6" centre to centre length and we are waiting for a custom made cast
alloy piston to suit our combination for steet use (arriving very soon).
We will offer customers a complete crank, rod, cast piston package
including, rings, bearings, new steel/alloy keyed harmonic balancer and
flywheel assembly. Balance is external like a 400ci Small Block Chev,
Ford 302 etc.
You are welcome to buy only the crank and use whichever rod/piston
assembly you prefer. The crank only is $950.00 U.S and is available from
our distributor in the U.S Marvin Miller Manufacturing in Whittier
California.
They do not have stocks yet but will in the next month or so.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further queries.
Sam Blumenstein
"Bartsch, Robert" wrote:
>
> I'm interested in a stroker crankshaft for an LS1 engine. Please let me
> know if you are manufacturing these.
>
???????????????????????????????????????
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Re: Iron stroker? Becasue NASTY-TA does not like the length of this thread, I command others to immediatly cease discussion of this topic....
Oh, by the way, the AUSIE guy said his cranks carry main journals the size of FORD 302s ??????
Why would you do this? Does'nt this increase the cost of after-market rods and pistons for a stroker package???
Oh, by the way, the AUSIE guy said his cranks carry main journals the size of FORD 302s ??????
Why would you do this? Does'nt this increase the cost of after-market rods and pistons for a stroker package???
