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Old 06-19-2003, 10:17 AM
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Oil analysis is from a 01 Z06. Comparing it to some others I have seen on the net, it looks pretty good.

If you've done an oil analysis, how does it compare?

FYI-1 quart added oil was for racing purposes. Filter was AC Delco Ultragold.



Old 06-19-2003, 12:51 PM
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Interesting test. Have you ever tested any other oils?

How much did this test cost? Any webpages with info on this companies oil testing.
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Here's the lab that tested the oil.
Blackstone Labs

Normal cost is $20 but I paid $10 extra to have the TBN test done. This test tells how much additive is left in the oil. It helps you figure out how long you can run your oil and it still protect your motor.

Patman is the guru. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com
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Funny I was thinking this was Royal Purple before I even read it! You should try the RP # 41
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How could you tell it was RP? What's #41? the racing version?
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How could you tell it was RP? What's #41? the racing version?
I had the feeling it was by the high amounts of zinc, phosphorus and calcium. RP# 41 is the race oil that is equal to about a 10W40. I have it in my new stoker motor right now. I've got about 3K miles on it so far.
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

I have a copy of a friends report on a WS6 and he has higher levels of those three you mentioned and he is running Redline. What gives?

I also read that the "race version" is not designed to run on the street.
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I know that Redline does have higher amounts of
zinc than RP's street oil, but are you sure about the calcium and phosphorus?
The "race version" as you put it is fine for the street and I used it in my LT1 vette, both Vipers that I owned and now the Camaro.
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His numbers:
Zinc-1205
Phosphorus-1099
Calcium-2680

I'm trying to find where I read that the "Race versions" were not formulated to use on the street. ...will post back...
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Post about using racing oils in daily drivers.

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Also, here's a test of Amsoil 10w-30 in it's virgin state.
Phosphorus (P) 866
Zinc (Zn) 910
Calcium (Ca) 1730

And Royal Purple 10W-30 in it's virgin state.
Ca 1736
P 788
Zn 982

Also, Redline 15w-40 in its virgin state
Ca, 3131 ppm
P, 1261 ppm
Zn, 1334 ppm

So, I don't see how just by looking at the analysis you could tell it was Royal Purple since it seems most oils show high numbers in those three areas. Please correct me if I am wrong since I am new at all of this oil analysis stuff.

Patman, shed some light... please.
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Post about using racing oils in daily drivers.

The Link

Also, here's a test of Amsoil 10w-30 in it's virgin state.
Phosphorus (P) 866
Zinc (Zn) 910
Calcium (Ca) 1730

And Royal Purple 10W-30 in it's virgin state.
Ca 1736
P 788
Zn 982

Also, Redline 15w-40 in its virgin state
Ca, 3131 ppm
P, 1261 ppm
Zn, 1334 ppm

So, I don't see how just by looking at the analysis you could tell it was Royal Purple since it seems most oils show high numbers in those three areas. Please correct me if I am wrong since I am new at all of this oil analysis stuff.

Patman, shed some light... please.

Let's compare RP 41: This is from a friend's recent analysis of RP 41.
Zinc - 1904
Phosphorous - 1072
Calcuim (sulfonate) is part of the detergency package. Both RP's 'street' and Racing lines will have stout packages - 2500 to 3000 ppm range. Red Line will be higher in zinc/ phosphorous than RP's 'street" 10W40 as RP's is API licensed, Red Line's engine oils are not. The API limits these additive as they are proven to be harmful to emissions devices.
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

Can you give an explaination on what those numbers mean exactly?
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

PATMAN:
Please give your opinion on this thread.

It looks like the oil analyst with 20 years in the business is giving Royal Purple a good recommnedation. I thought you said you have never seen a good test result with this "garbage" oil? You even said you will not use the free case of oil the company sent you to keep quite about the bad test results.

Can I PLEASE have your free case of RP now?

P.S. The oil filtration was great too; so I suppose he used a FRAM oil filter - another one of your favorate products...
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

hey, I wasn't trying to start anything with this post. I just wanted some help on figuring out what these numbers mean.
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It's a good report, but not super great. Iron is a bit higher than it should be, so is tin. Plus it thinned out quite a bit too. Redline would easily beat this report.

As far as using up the free case I got from them, I have used all but 2 quarts of it. Their 5w30 oil is still in my wife's car as we speak.
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

How could you tell it was RP? What's #41? the racing version?
Your report has the oil type listed in the header under "Unit".
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He said he knew it was RP just by looking at the numbers. I wanted to know how.
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He said he knew it was RP just by looking at the numbers. I wanted to know how.
He admitted he just guessed though. Honestly, those numbers for the additives in RP aren't much different than many other oils. If I looked over the report and didn't know what brand it was, I would've guessed RP as well, mainly because it thinned out! (seriously, since no other synthetic thins out as much and as soon as RP does)
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How could you tell it was RP? What's #41? the racing version?
I had the feeling it was by the high amounts of zinc, phosphorus and calcium. RP# 41 is the race oil that is equal to about a 10W40. I have it in my new stoker motor right now. I've got about 3K miles on it so far.
He listed what he looked at that made him say it was RP.

Look, if I would have know RP was soooo taboo, I never would have posted this test on here and asked for your opinion. I'm new at this and I am just trying to get help. Evidentaly I chose the wrong oil to get the most feedback.
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Default Re: Z06 oil analysis results

For comparison, here is another UOA from a Z06 using Mobil 1 5w30. (I don't believe Mobil 1 5w30 is a good choice for the LS1 either by the way)





Here is more info on the driving conditions of the car:
5300 miles on the oil mobil 1 5w-30 and AC UPF44 filter
1 quart added for track use.
1 autocross
1 day at the drags (13 runs)
1 day of track use at Road Atlanta four 30 min sessions. Oil temps where maybe @ 255*f for the highest that day. It was a cool day.


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