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Old 11-17-2007, 04:49 PM
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Exclamation NEW LSX Intake Mainfold better then FAST

If this comes out and backs up its claims screw the FAST 90/90 setup I was going to do when I do my heads this winter I'll go this route. About time someone came out with a composite intake to rival FAST that does not include the insane price of the FAST combo.

http://www.v8tvshow.com/forum/index.....msg437#msg437
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Don't hold your breath. Early reports show the runners in the Weiand manifold to have smaller cross sectional area and longer runners than both the FAST 90 and the LS6 intake. What this means is that the Weiand manifold will make better torque and hp at lower rpm, but it will run out of breath above 6000 rpm.

Even Weiand's own dyno sheets show it being passed up by the LS6 and FAST intake above 6000 rpm. If you're looking for a great street manifold, this is worth considering, but if you're looking for something that makes lots more peak power than the LS6 or FAST 90, you may want to wait for some unbiased 3rd party testing.
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yeah I was planning on waiting for someone else to be the guini pig of course but seeing as the stock redline on the engines its made for (LS1,LS6,LS2,L92) is 6000-6500 I cant see them not being prepared for this piece to go on a modded car considering it is a mod itself, guess time will tell.
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Doesnt FAST have a 102 or something coming out?
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Don't hold your breath. Early reports show the runners in the Weiand manifold to have smaller cross sectional area and longer runners than both the FAST 90 and the LS6 intake. What this means is that the Weiand manifold will make better torque and hp at lower rpm, but it will run out of breath above 6000 rpm.

Even Weiand's own dyno sheets show it being passed up by the LS6 and FAST intake above 6000 rpm. If you're looking for a great street manifold, this is worth considering, but if you're looking for something that makes lots more peak power than the LS6 or FAST 90, you may want to wait for some unbiased 3rd party testing.
Yeap, Weiand even states power range from idle to 6200 only, so for torquey A4 and the proper cam, this is a good alternative to the LS1/LS6 OEM pieces.

The nice part is they will bring out a L92 head compatible unit
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I think ill just stick to the proven performer.
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The untouched ugly truck manifold outperforms the LS6 manifold on 5.0L Daytona Prototype engines which make max power ~7000. I believe those engines make the kind of power most 5.7 and 6.0 LS engine guys would be proud of.

Runner length should be pretty easy to measure @ PRI.
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In my opinion, the one piece design would make it difficult to port. The multi-piece design of the FAST would be superior for this aspect if nothing else.
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Good to see more products come to market. It does kind of suck that it drops off. How does the torque or a FAST compare to this? They said 30something lbft at 4000?..Where does the fast come in on torque?
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I'll stick wiith my ported fast 90
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Don't hold your breath. Early reports show the runners in the Weiand manifold to have smaller cross sectional area and longer runners than both the FAST 90 and the LS6 intake. What this means is that the Weiand manifold will make better torque and hp at lower rpm, but it will run out of breath above 6000 rpm.

Even Weiand's own dyno sheets show it being passed up by the LS6 and FAST intake above 6000 rpm. If you're looking for a great street manifold, this is worth considering, but if you're looking for something that makes lots more peak power than the LS6 or FAST 90, you may want to wait for some unbiased 3rd party testing.
Yep.... If you know how manifold's work then then common since will tell you this manifold will struggle to 7,000 RPM's. The long runner will make for more downlow power/TQ but will hold back the up top RPM range.
The L76 manifold is similar. It has a large runner but has a long runner as well, this hurts the top end potential of many combo's.
I think this manifold will be a great street manifold and depending on the price... might be a good move for the 98-2000 guys who dont have a LS6 intake manifold already.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Doesnt FAST have a 102 or something coming out?

I thought I read it was only a 92mm but a 102 would be cool.
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So, It will work great on my truck.
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it sounds like the new weiand would be great for an autocross application where most of the time is spent in the 4500-5500 range if you are geared right. extra torque when you are only flashing higher rpms once in a while is very helpful.
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Originally Posted by Keith
So, It will work great on my truck.

I would say that statement might be very accurate, but only time will tell.
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Whats the runner length of the FAST and LS6 manifold? Also, when it comes to sheetmetal intakes, what do their runner lengths usually end up at?

Sorry for the hijack.. Just trying to get an idea of how these all stack up..
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Yep.... If you know how manifold's work then then common since will tell you this manifold will struggle to 7,000 RPM's. The long runner will make for more downlow power/TQ but will hold back the up top RPM range.
The L76 manifold is similar. It has a large runner but has a long runner as well, this hurts the top end potential of many combo's.
I think this manifold will be a great street manifold and depending on the price... might be a good move for the 98-2000 guys who dont have a LS6 intake manifold already.
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So does the manifold now flow as well as an LS6 6200rmp+ or will it still be a slight upgrade over the Ls6? Even if it were a slight upgrade, it might be worth it for the added low end torque you would see...?
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so 0 to 100 times would you want more rpm's (F.A.S.T) or more low end torque (the new wiend)
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Originally Posted by Ilikeppie
so 0 to 100 times would you want more rpm's (F.A.S.T) or more low end torque (the new wiend)
You want power under the curve. The first 60' the low and mid range are important, but after that, it's pretty much all top-end.
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Everyone must run awfully big cams on this site. I run a 222/228 cam and it would be pointless for me to rev past 6200.



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