404 Stroker No Good??????
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404 Stroker No Good?????? I just recently purchased a stroker motor from one of the sponsors on this board (I will not reveal the name until I have something confirmed). Forged bottom end....everything top of the line....completely assembled from them. I paid nearly 8k for this motor. All I did was transfer over a few things (timing cover, intake manifold, accessories etc.).....I towed it to my tuner and had him put in a tune and do an oil change with rotela oil (as the sponsor recommended) . Started up the car let it run for a bit and the noise appeared....he took off the belt and the noise was still there...at this point i've really had it. 8k spent and not a mile on the motor, and here i am hoping i won't have to pull out the motor just to send it back and wait another month plus.
Last edited by fastest94v6; Nov 29, 2007 at 05:46 PM.
That is exactly what I mentioned to him when he called. I'm not concerned about it being mentioned that it is our motor. We have 100% confidence in EVERY engine that leaves our facility. I'm not sure if he installed the covers and oil pan or if the shop did the work. He wasn't very clear on who did it. But it sounded like there was a good possibility that a windage tray clearance issue was the problem.
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And i have confidence in you guys also....hence the reason why i spent the amount that I did. And the same reason why i've ordered from you guys in the past and the same reason why I didn't point any fingers at you guys as I stated on the phone....Aside from that, that's not my issue....I'm concerned with trying to find out why this motor is howling like a wolf at just idle. If it is the windage tray not clearing, what would that cost as far as labor wise? Could it have damaged anything?
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I know you weren't pointing fingers. I was just getting it out there before the whole world starts asking the question and feel your PM box trying to help you out. 
Typically it won't hurt anything when it isn't run for long. Usually, from what I have seen, it wears on the rod bolts and dents the windage tray. You will need to look into it immediately and make sure you change the oil as well.
Typically it won't hurt anything when it isn't run for long. Usually, from what I have seen, it wears on the rod bolts and dents the windage tray. You will need to look into it immediately and make sure you change the oil as well. 
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I always experience outstanding service...this thread was not made in any way to bash TSP. If there was a problem where i found there service to lack quality....I can take it up with John...And believe me, myself being a well paying customer I have every right to if there are any problems. I left TSP's name out of this for a reason, and lets keep it on topic.
prob a simple search would have told you to check that!! am i right???
just because you can afford to buy a high hp engine dosn't mean just anyone should own one. i would say this prove's it. not to be a ***** but when you start makeing big hp you should have at least the basic know how of how the engine works.or pay someone who will know what to check before the first fire of a 8k engine.damn
good luck
just because you can afford to buy a high hp engine dosn't mean just anyone should own one. i would say this prove's it. not to be a ***** but when you start makeing big hp you should have at least the basic know how of how the engine works.or pay someone who will know what to check before the first fire of a 8k engine.damn
good luck
I would think a quick way to tell if it is the windage tray and not a clearance issure somewhere else is to turn the motor over by hand with a ratchet. The rods are going to hit the tray at certain points, not constantly. If it is a constant scraping I would imagine you clearance issues somewhere else. I would try taking off the timing cover next, just to make sure that nothing is hitting in that area as well. Is your oil pressure good?
It could be a really simple thing, it is a new motor. Start narrowing down where the sound is coming from and work from there.
It could be a really simple thing, it is a new motor. Start narrowing down where the sound is coming from and work from there.
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I would think a quick way to tell if it is the windage tray and not a clearance issure somewhere else is to turn the motor over by hand with a ratchet. The rods are going to hit the tray at certain points, not constantly. If it is a constant scraping I would imagine you clearance issues somewhere else. I would try taking off the timing cover next, just to make sure that nothing is hitting in that area as well. Is your oil pressure good?
It could be a really simple thing, it is a new motor. Start narrowing down where the sound is coming from and work from there.
It could be a really simple thing, it is a new motor. Start narrowing down where the sound is coming from and work from there.
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I hope it is nothing serious.
prob a simple search would have told you to check that!! am i right???
just because you can afford to buy a high hp engine dosn't mean just anyone should own one. i would say this prove's it. not to be a ***** but when you start makeing big hp you should have at least the basic know how of how the engine works.or pay someone who will know what to check before the first fire of a 8k engine.damn
good luck
just because you can afford to buy a high hp engine dosn't mean just anyone should own one. i would say this prove's it. not to be a ***** but when you start makeing big hp you should have at least the basic know how of how the engine works.or pay someone who will know what to check before the first fire of a 8k engine.damn
good luck
It couldn't be the cam bearings. He already said the oil pressure was good. I wouldn't expect a single roller to hit the front cover either. If it were the cam retainer plate, again you would have oil pressure issues when the cam tried to walk out of the motor. I have seen that happen when a customer didn't properly torque down the cam retainer plate bolts.