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Old 11-27-2007 | 01:44 PM
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Is the MS3 cam (237/242 .603/.609" 112 LSA) a good cam for my mods? This will be a daily driver, but not a long trip driver though. I'll be getting an LS6 intake and ported TB when I do the cam change too.
Old 11-27-2007 | 03:23 PM
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I am not an expert, but I would say yes. It would probably like the FAST 90 better, and a higher stall. There are quite a few people running that cam in daily drivers. I run the MS4 on a 111LSA and love the curve. From 1500rpm and above, it part throttle drives like the stocker. Gas milage does suck, but then again I had the shop tune it....I am sure they were only concerned with idle and WOT numbers and didn't really do much with optimizing MPG.
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w/ those gears and the tq con. it will be a great cam
as far as daily driving thats gonna depend on what you consider good for daily driving'
thats a decent cam for a DD and will need a GOOD! tune.
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I know a guy on here with some similar mods' and has put down like 430 RWHP through a 4400, 4.10s, 90/90, and bullets. There may be some additional stuff that I didn't list but that's the jest of it.

I'm no expert, by any means, but I think you may be pretty happy.
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You can DD that cam all day with a good tune.
Old 11-28-2007 | 01:44 AM
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It is all relative. It is a matter of how much you can tolerate. My car bucks and surges a bit and I have a decent tune. You will have to do a lot of logging with the tunning program of your choice to set the drivability how you like it. Do a search to read up on the cam as much as you can. Other than getting the tune spot on it is a great cam. Drivability was not any worse than my previous F13. Good luck.
Old 11-28-2007 | 01:51 AM
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a local Camaro ran a 10.98@121 with this cam. fast 90/90 STOCK heads, auto 4400 stall 4.10's in the rear with stock 10 bolt. slicks/skinnies.

in case you were wondering lol
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It is all relative. It is a matter of how much you can tolerate. My car bucks and surges a bit and I have a decent tune. You will have to do a lot of logging with the tunning program of your choice to set the drivability how you like it. Do a search to read up on the cam as much as you can. Other than getting the tune spot on it is a great cam. Drivability was not any worse than my previous F13. Good luck.

If I get this cam, my tuner is absolutely stellar. He tunes it on the dyno, and really did a great job doing the last tune when I had the LT's put on. He shouldn't have any problem with the tun if I get the MS3.
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a local Camaro ran a 10.98@121 with this cam. fast 90/90 STOCK heads, auto 4400 stall 4.10's in the rear with stock 10 bolt. slicks/skinnies.

in case you were wondering lol
WOW! I'd be happy with just mid 11's for now. A buddy of mine just bought a "06 C6 A6 with the paddle shifter, and I just want to keep ahead of him at the track. He thinks he'll do mid 12's on street tires.
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Originally Posted by DRAGONLOVER
Is the MS3 cam (237/242 .603/.609" 112 LSA) a good cam for my mods? This will be a daily driver, but not a long trip driver though. I'll be getting an LS6 intake and ported TB when I do the cam change too.
With your stall and gears, the MS3 would be an outstanding choice, even in a daily driven application.

As others have said - the tune is where 99% of the driveability will either be perfected or lost completely.

Good luck!
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With your stall and gears, the MS3 would be an outstanding choice, even in a daily driven application.

As others have said - the tune is where 99% of the driveability will either be perfected or lost completely.

Good luck!
Even with a good dyno tune from a great tuner, what kind of idle quality will the MS3 be like? I don't mind a good lope, and actually would prefer it. If I'm putting down 300RWHP now with the converter unlocked, is 350RWHP possible with my mods and a good tune? I'll be adding a LS6 intake and ported TB with the cam change.
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its gonna idle great I had ported heads and that cam with a 4000 stall and 3.73's and with the ac on it idled perfect with a mail order tune and it was a monster.
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I think you could reach 350 with the converter locked. I was able to with somewhat similar mods'. I know of a couple people who have also in my area.
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Originally Posted by DRAGONLOVER
Even with a good dyno tune from a great tuner, what kind of idle quality will the MS3 be like? I don't mind a good lope, and actually would prefer it. If I'm putting down 300RWHP now with the converter unlocked, is 350RWHP possible with my mods and a good tune? I'll be adding a LS6 intake and ported TB with the cam change.
I run the MS3 on a 113lsa and it lopes hard. The lower the idle is set at, the harder it will lope - have your tuner adjust it for your preference.

I don't think 350RWHP will be a problem at all.
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I agree with Joey, I run the ms3 on 113lsa with a 3800-rpm stall converter. With the cam, ported ls6 heads, ls6 intake, and 4.10's I am making 428hp. I can easily daily drive mine with no bucking or surging. Another thing is find a really good tuner, driveability is all in the tune. You should make 350hp no problem, you will love the cam.

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Old 11-30-2007 | 09:53 PM
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I say a little bit bigger on the stall and it would be perfect. But it will still hall *** with the 3500 you already have!
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Yeah you will need a bigger stall to get the most out of it. If you stay n/a i would go with 4000, if you spray 3800. I will be spraying 150-shot so I decided on a 3800 stall.
Old 12-01-2007 | 07:48 AM
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Its a gr8 cam, i did 390hp 380tq with my mods, no track time yet.
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Yeah, 350 rwhp will be no problem at all. A buddy of mine made 392 rwhp on stock heads, and ls6 intake, and 3,500 stall (Dynojet). Since then he's had to install a built trans, 4,500 stall and a crossbrace mounted torque arm.
Old 12-02-2007 | 11:36 PM
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I had a ms3 in my car,with 241s and a ls6 intake and it ran great,i dd the car too,with no probs,it would idle around 1k,it only had a mail order tune also,from jason at tsp!




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