MS3 cam
MS3 cam Is the MS3 cam (237/242 .603/.609" 112 LSA) a good cam for my mods? This will be a daily driver, but not a long trip driver though. I'll be getting an LS6 intake and ported TB when I do the cam change too.
I am not an expert, but I would say yes. It would probably like the FAST 90 better, and a higher stall. There are quite a few people running that cam in daily drivers. I run the MS4 on a 111LSA and love the curve. From 1500rpm and above, it part throttle drives like the stocker. Gas milage does suck, but then again I had the shop tune it....I am sure they were only concerned with idle and WOT numbers and didn't really do much with optimizing MPG.
w/ those gears and the tq con. it will be a great cam
as far as daily driving thats gonna depend on what you consider good for daily driving'
thats a decent cam for a DD and will need a GOOD! tune.
as far as daily driving thats gonna depend on what you consider good for daily driving'
thats a decent cam for a DD and will need a GOOD! tune.
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I know a guy on here with some similar mods' and has put down like 430 RWHP through a 4400, 4.10s, 90/90, and bullets. There may be some additional stuff that I didn't list but that's the jest of it.
I'm no expert, by any means, but I think you may be pretty happy.
I'm no expert, by any means, but I think you may be pretty happy.
It is all relative. It is a matter of how much you can tolerate. My car bucks and surges a bit and I have a decent tune. You will have to do a lot of logging with the tunning program of your choice to set the drivability how you like it. Do a search to read up on the cam as much as you can. Other than getting the tune spot on it is a great cam. Drivability was not any worse than my previous F13. Good luck.
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It is all relative. It is a matter of how much you can tolerate. My car bucks and surges a bit and I have a decent tune. You will have to do a lot of logging with the tunning program of your choice to set the drivability how you like it. Do a search to read up on the cam as much as you can. Other than getting the tune spot on it is a great cam. Drivability was not any worse than my previous F13. Good luck.
If I get this cam, my tuner is absolutely stellar. He tunes it on the dyno, and really did a great job doing the last tune when I had the LT's put on. He shouldn't have any problem with the tun if I get the MS3.
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Verdad Gallardo WOW! I'd be happy with just mid 11's for now. A buddy of mine just bought a "06 C6 A6 with the paddle shifter, and I just want to keep ahead of him at the track. He thinks he'll do mid 12's on street tires.
As others have said - the tune is where 99% of the driveability will either be perfected or lost completely.
Good luck!
Even with a good dyno tune from a great tuner, what kind of idle quality will the MS3 be like? I don't mind a good lope, and actually would prefer it. If I'm putting down 300RWHP now with the converter unlocked, is 350RWHP possible with my mods and a good tune? I'll be adding a LS6 intake and ported TB with the cam change.
Even with a good dyno tune from a great tuner, what kind of idle quality will the MS3 be like? I don't mind a good lope, and actually would prefer it. If I'm putting down 300RWHP now with the converter unlocked, is 350RWHP possible with my mods and a good tune? I'll be adding a LS6 intake and ported TB with the cam change.
I don't think 350RWHP will be a problem at all.
I agree with Joey, I run the ms3 on 113lsa with a 3800-rpm stall converter. With the cam, ported ls6 heads, ls6 intake, and 4.10's I am making 428hp. I can easily daily drive mine with no bucking or surging. Another thing is find a really good tuner, driveability is all in the tune. You should make 350hp no problem, you will love the cam.
Last edited by BJSS25; Nov 30, 2007 at 06:29 PM.
Yeah you will need a bigger stall to get the most out of it. If you stay n/a i would go with 4000, if you spray 3800. I will be spraying 150-shot so I decided on a 3800 stall.
Yeah, 350 rwhp will be no problem at all. A buddy of mine made 392 rwhp on stock heads, and ls6 intake, and 3,500 stall (Dynojet). Since then he's had to install a built trans, 4,500 stall and a crossbrace mounted torque arm.
I had a ms3 in my car,with 241s and a ls6 intake and it ran great,i dd the car too,with no probs,it would idle around 1k,it only had a mail order tune also,from jason at tsp!
