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Old 12-13-2007, 02:39 PM
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well i'm running the ms4, stock ls6 heads, stock ls6 intake, stock tb, slp lt's through cutouts, ls7 clutch, and moser 12 bolt with 3.73's and finally made a clean pass to an 11.9@116. That was on a 26x11.50 mt et street running 11 psi, that is one reason my mph isn't that high. 60' was a 1.71 but bogging off the line from a 5000 rpm clutch dump. I'm about to swap the gears out for either 4.10's or 4.30's. Ain't made up my mind yet. I should be able to turn low 1.6's or high 1.5's to the short mark, but the 3.73's just ain't workin for me. I will have some new times when the track opens again. I'm guessing it will be close to the mid 11's around 119 to 120. When i mean it bogged, i mean it dropped 2-2500 rpm with no tire spin. Its a great cam imho although i don't dd it, i have and its not bad as long as you have a good tune. oh and 1/8 was a 7.7 @ 92.
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Originally Posted by 021less
well i'm running the ms4, stock ls6 heads, stock ls6 intake, stock tb, slp lt's through cutouts, ls7 clutch, and moser 12 bolt with 3.73's and finally made a clean pass to an 11.9@116. That was on a 26x11.50 mt et street running 11 psi, that is one reason my mph isn't that high. 60' was a 1.71 but bogging off the line from a 5000 rpm clutch dump. I'm about to swap the gears out for either 4.10's or 4.30's. Ain't made up my mind yet. I should be able to turn low 1.6's or high 1.5's to the short mark, but the 3.73's just ain't workin for me. I will have some new times when the track opens again. I'm guessing it will be close to the mid 11's around 119 to 120. When i mean it bogged, i mean it dropped 2-2500 rpm with no tire spin. Its a great cam imho although i don't dd it, i have and its not bad as long as you have a good tune. oh and 1/8 was a 7.7 @ 92.

shoulda raised the tire pressure to 15, then tried again... if still bog, raise until it doesnt bog, but spins. then lower by 1.
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ms4
full bolt ons
stock rear
stock clutch(sucks *****)

12.5@117 w/ a granny launch
Old 12-13-2007, 04:14 PM
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MS4
SLP LT's
3" duals
LS6 intake
stock 241 heads
P&P TB
3500 stall
stock 3.23 gears
full weight (around 3700-3800 with me in it)
275 street tires

12.09@114 mph with 1.89 60'
dyno'ed 390/340 unlocked

Can't wait til I get some sticky tires and new gears!
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Originally Posted by fastvet
So then it is definately worth buying the cam?

What type of max lift are your springs. Cuz i think, if I am not mistaken that the ms4 has like a .649 lift. Just curios to know what you put in it?
yes the lift is high at the time i used it i had ls6 stg 1 heads . now this time around im thinking of useing trick flow ill post what ever i deside 2 use
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Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
I love my MS3
I see you are still on here you cheese dick mother ******!!!! You fucked anyone out of any money since me????? This guy is a **** head!!!!!
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hahahaha^^^^^^

Back to subject, I have it loved it then everything went bad, After about 6 months car got weak, prob not the cam, but I feel Tsp has better grinds to be installed. Went 13.45 at 112mph with a heak soaked car(drove straight from amarillo to the staging lanes in Idalou), and no clutch above 5000rpm and missing 3rd hahaha. Oh this was my daily driver. ( i think i hurt a rod (replace your rod bolts), which bent a valve slightly). /oh yeah then I sprayed the ****, and then some magic item found it's way into the the #4 cyl.

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Originally Posted by rickyracer25
hahahaha^^^^^^

Back to subject, I have it loved it then everything went bad, After about 6 months car got weak, prob not the cam, but I feel Tsp has better grinds to be installed. Went 13.45 at 112mph with a heak soaked car(drove straight from amarillo to the staging lanes in Idalou), and no clutch above 5000rpm and missing 3rd hahaha. Oh this was my daily driver. ( i think i hurt a rod (replace your rod bolts), which bent a valve slightly). /oh yeah then I sprayed the ****, and then some magic item found it's way into the the #4 cyl.
damn ever got back up and running or u just gave up?
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we are rebuilding now, it will be faster, and I will be in more debt lol still trying to figure out what combo. 395 vs. 383 vs. 347
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Originally Posted by NaSSty Nate
I still like the ms3 over the ms4...but my buddy in his h/c vette went 11.5 at 122 ish...
my ms3/5.3 heads camaro went 11.53 at 119 letting out (no cage) 7.42 1/8th mile...next time out on skinny's went 7.18 at 96.7 in the 1/8th.

Ive seen 2 cam only MS4 cars outrun a MS3 with PRC stage 1 ls6 heads
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I gotten my *** handed to me by a Ms3 cam only car.... hahaha
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MS4, stock hand ported 241's, fast 90, power robbing 4l80e, nitrous tune, 3.42 gears 11.8@116 shifting at 6k. Im also at 3500 pounds or more.
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Originally Posted by rickyracer25
hahahaha^^^^^^

Back to subject, I have it loved it then everything went bad, After about 6 months car got weak, prob not the cam, but I feel Tsp has better grinds to be installed. Went 13.45 at 112mph with a heak soaked car(drove straight from amarillo to the staging lanes in Idalou), and no clutch above 5000rpm and missing 3rd hahaha. Oh this was my daily driver. ( i think i hurt a rod (replace your rod bolts), which bent a valve slightly). /oh yeah then I sprayed the ****, and then some magic item found it's way into the the #4 cyl.


HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry man, its late and i have been drinking, but that was some funny ****. At least your a good sport about it. Some people would have given up!

Was your car tuned for both the cam and the spray? Not only that, did you have slicks on? 13.5 sounds pretty off for the cam and nitrous!

Just Curious!!
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Originally Posted by rickyracer25
hahahaha^^^^^^

Back to subject, I have it loved it then everything went bad, After about 6 months car got weak, prob not the cam, but I feel Tsp has better grinds to be installed. Went 13.45 at 112mph with a heak soaked car(drove straight from amarillo to the staging lanes in Idalou), and no clutch above 5000rpm and missing 3rd hahaha. Oh this was my daily driver. ( i think i hurt a rod (replace your rod bolts), which bent a valve slightly). /oh yeah then I sprayed the ****, and then some magic item found it's way into the the #4 cyl.

looks like your car put down good number, but i bet it was because of a stock rear and so on.

thats funny ****. and like i said, i pulled on a head and cam LS1 6 speed.... i think its mostly in the tune.. not going to say any names cough(LSsomeone dave)

anyways
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Originally Posted by jwatson
Ive seen 2 cam only MS4 cars outrun a MS3 with PRC stage 1 ls6 heads
I've never seen that before. I've seen the opposite.
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Originally Posted by rickyracer25
we are rebuilding now, it will be faster, and I will be in more debt lol still trying to figure out what combo. 395 vs. 383 vs. 347
TRY AND GET YA HAND ON A 408 TSP has nice prices anyone u should be happy with. i know i am way out of budget doing 2 cars a4 & m6
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hey did anyone pull the wheels with ms3 or ms4 and if so do u have a video wish i can pull the wheels lol
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I didn't pull the wheels, but the driver side was about a red headed **** hair from coming up. i believe with the gear swap she might just come off a little!
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Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
I've never seen that before. I've seen the opposite.
Well I witnessed it first hand. I dont know why the outcome was like this but I speak the truth. The 2 MS4 cars were an LS1 Goat and a WS6, The MS3 and heads car was a Z28. If it would have went much farther than a 1/4 mile race the MS3 car would have probly won. By the way it wasnt because of traction issues or anything either.
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11.6@121mph ms4, ls6, pc lt's, 4.30's with 28" tall et streets 1.71 60'



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