Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
07-11-2003, 09:07 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
ScreaminSS01: did I miss something here? You seem to have a grudge against LG or their products for some reason. I've read this thread a couple times and you seem to be the only one with something negative to say. I fail to see how you can say your car isn't a full bolt on car, the only thing it looks like you're missing is a lid???
kick and I am just saying people are making the same power,same drivability with LS1 heads. 
07-11-2003, 09:07 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison I dont have pullys, or ported TB... I think for not a full bolt on ls1, with stock heads...to put down 400 rwhp is pretty good..I also think that with the pullys and TB I would be up to 415-420 WITHOUT heads. To me its not an issue or drivability, like screaminss stated both have the same drivability...
07-11-2003, 09:09 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison It's cool, I'm just screwing with you. The reason I asked is because whenever LG brings something to the market, it seems like everyone flames them. Also, the other trend I noticed is that all the people who offer their input don't even have the parts being discussed. Your car sounds nuts with LS1 heads so you get props.
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07-11-2003, 09:09 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
As for the drivability of the G5X2 on stock programming... if you like surging, hunting for idle, bad hot starts, I guess it is fine.
I said "on stock programming". A cam that big will do that on stock programming. I still think that you need real tuning as well. Someone who knows what they are doing and has tuned these cams before.
I think that a G5X2 is a rediculous cam for a daily driver and just so you don't get upset (again) I mean all G5X2's that haven't been properly tuned.
Seems kinda funny you get so defensive.
07-11-2003, 09:13 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
Sorry MOBE YOU ARE CORRECT...I misread.
whoever I just quoted YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG!
Sorry MOBE.
whoever I just quoted YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG!
Sorry MOBE.
07-11-2003, 09:26 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison nevermind, You said stock programming...You cant judge a untuned G5X2 car and compare it to a tuned one...its completely different. I agree it is crazy before tuning, but I wouldnt go as far as bucking bronco.. If you drove my car you would change your mind.
07-11-2003, 09:28 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison [/quote]
It's cool, I'm just screwing with you. The reason I asked is because whenever LG brings something to the market, it seems like everyone flames them. Also, the other trend I noticed is that all the people who offer their input don't even have the parts being discussed. Your car sounds nuts with LS1 heads so you get props. [/quote]
I would like to see use the 230/230 cam with one of his LS1 head cars or even LS6. That would be interesting
It's cool, I'm just screwing with you. The reason I asked is because whenever LG brings something to the market, it seems like everyone flames them. Also, the other trend I noticed is that all the people who offer their input don't even have the parts being discussed. Your car sounds nuts with LS1 heads so you get props.
[/quote]I would like to see use the 230/230 cam with one of his LS1 head cars or even LS6. That would be interesting
07-11-2003, 09:53 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
From the bucking/surging, dieing, hunting for idle, I really don't need to drive it to form an opinion.
I said "on stock programming". A cam that big will do that on stock programming. I still think that you need real tuning as well. Someone who knows what they are doing and has tuned these cams before.
I think that a G5X2 is a rediculous cam for a daily driver and just so you don't get upset (again) I mean all G5X2's that haven't been properly tuned.
Who cares if YOU think they are a ridiculous cam for a daily driver? Thank you for your opinion. Please drive thru.
07-11-2003, 10:29 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison No doubt. I've got all the essentials done as far as tuning. I just need to refine it on the dyno.
btw... Sorry for my part in hi-jacking this thread, folks.
btw... Sorry for my part in hi-jacking this thread, folks.
07-11-2003, 10:32 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison minivette- so, let me get this straight... any cam that hunts/surges while the PCM is still stock is ridiculous for a daily driver??
What about the significant number of us that want the best possible performance and behavior out of our cars and are willing to pony up for an LS1edit dyno tune??
Assuming that it is properly tuned, would you still find the G5X2 to be a poor choice for a daily driver cam?? Because I have to tell you... I have driven/ridden in several G5X2 cars that have been tuned at LG (by Godspeed), and the issues that you're describing have all vanished unless you REALLY bog the motor down (i.e., try to let it idle in gear in an M6); in other words, the kind of situations that would cause even a stock cammed car to buck.
Don't get me wrong, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I just don't think that you've given the cam's behavior a fair assessment until you have driven or ridden in a car that has been properly tuned.
What about the significant number of us that want the best possible performance and behavior out of our cars and are willing to pony up for an LS1edit dyno tune??
Assuming that it is properly tuned, would you still find the G5X2 to be a poor choice for a daily driver cam?? Because I have to tell you... I have driven/ridden in several G5X2 cars that have been tuned at LG (by Godspeed), and the issues that you're describing have all vanished unless you REALLY bog the motor down (i.e., try to let it idle in gear in an M6); in other words, the kind of situations that would cause even a stock cammed car to buck.
Don't get me wrong, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I just don't think that you've given the cam's behavior a fair assessment until you have driven or ridden in a car that has been properly tuned.
07-11-2003, 11:00 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
So your entire opinion was based on 1 time it stalled w/ the a/c on and it bucking under 1500 rpm. The only time it ever hunted for idle were on hot starts, and even then it searched for what, 2 seconds.
And I said, that for being a cam of that size, the stock program wasn't that bad. Most cams that big would not respond as well "on stock programing". Re-read that post. The whole point was about the ICL #. I agree 100% that it needs tuning. I never said otherwise.
Who cares if YOU think they are a ridiculous cam for a daily driver? Thank you for your opinion. Please drive thru. I'm not a sackrider like some people.
Quit being so defensive. I never specifically mentioned you or your car before you blasted me in this thread.
I was merely giving my opinion. Grow up.
07-11-2003, 11:05 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
minivette- so, let me get this straight... any cam that hunts/surges while the PCM is still stock is ridiculous for a daily driver??
What about the significant number of us that want the best possible performance and behavior out of our cars and are willing to pony up for an LS1edit dyno tune??
Assuming that it is properly tuned, would you still find the G5X2 to be a poor choice for a daily driver cam?? Because I have to tell you... I have driven/ridden in several G5X2 cars that have been tuned at LG (by Godspeed), and the issues that you're describing have all vanished unless you REALLY bog the motor down (i.e., try to let it idle in gear in an M6); in other words, the kind of situations that would cause even a stock cammed car to buck.
Don't get me wrong, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I just don't think that you've given the cam's behavior a fair assessment until you have driven or ridden in a car that has been properly tuned.
What about the significant number of us that want the best possible performance and behavior out of our cars and are willing to pony up for an LS1edit dyno tune??
Assuming that it is properly tuned, would you still find the G5X2 to be a poor choice for a daily driver cam?? Because I have to tell you... I have driven/ridden in several G5X2 cars that have been tuned at LG (by Godspeed), and the issues that you're describing have all vanished unless you REALLY bog the motor down (i.e., try to let it idle in gear in an M6); in other words, the kind of situations that would cause even a stock cammed car to buck.
Don't get me wrong, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I just don't think that you've given the cam's behavior a fair assessment until you have driven or ridden in a car that has been properly tuned.
I can't comment on a G5X2 that has been tuned because I have not ridden in a car, nor even observed a car that had that done.
07-11-2003, 11:17 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison Well regardless on what you meant to convey to onlookers, you came off as bashing the G5X-2 and its drivability. I agree it needs to be tuned, but its not hhorrible to drive without it. It took about 500 miles for my computer on stock programming to learn some of the stuff that was going on...I did nothave problems with hot starts, huntint or idle took less than a minute, and the surging was horrible above 1500..
07-11-2003, 11:22 AM
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Re: Comp 230/230/112 and G5X2 Comparison
Well regardless on what you meant to convey to onlookers, you came off as bashing the G5X-2 and its drivability. I agree it needs to be tuned, but its not hhorrible to drive without it. It took about 500 miles for my computer on stock programming to learn some of the stuff that was going on...I did nothave problems with hot starts, huntint or idle took less than a minute, and the surging was horrible above 1500..
I think this is as close as you can get without using the same car to test the results from these two cams. It is also a good comparison for someone who wants the most out of a cam with no intention of getting heads in the future. Nearly 400 rwhp on stock heads is amazing. I agree with the above posts in that the G5X2 will probably see better numbers with ported heads (that match the cam) than the 230/230 would.
As for the drivability of the G5X2 on stock programming... if you like surging, hunting for idle, bad hot starts, I guess it is fine.
As for the drivability of the G5X2 on stock programming... if you like surging, hunting for idle, bad hot starts, I guess it is fine.