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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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I dont know how big of a cam to go, i wanna make roughly about 400-415rhwp with full bolts ons and and cam in a ls1. But i want a streetable cam its my dd! what cam should i go with with i was like at a 228/230 with a 112lsa but i dont know much about cams!
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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.224/.224 .581/.581 114LSA.....passes smog too.
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will that put me at or a little bit over 400rwhp?
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no, you will need heads ad cam to reach 400 RWHP, along with headers and cold air intake. Thereis no streetable cam out there that I know of that will net you 400 RWHP, with nothing else done.
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i said 400 rhwp with full bolts and cam
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still need heads I think
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Call up one of the sponsors.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregorya24
i said 400 rhwp with full bolts and cam
You also said streetable and cam only. Therein lies the problem.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CODE4LS1
still need heads I think
If you were to add heads, you might have the best shot at reaching 400+rwhp with a DD friendly cam. The 228/230 112LSA cam you mentioned would get you closer than a 224/224 114, but will have 9 degrees more overlap (-4 vs +5). Even that is usually considered ok for a driver, but it does change the driveability some. It will depend on your tuner.
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A4 or M6.... There's been more than a few guys on here knockin' out 400rwhp or more without heads using a medium sized cam... Matter of fact, the guy i sold my old cam to (eatinsatng4life), just made like 395rwhp on stock heads... That was a xer 224/228 .581/.588 113+4 & yes having a good tuner will help your goal as well.

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Agreed call one of the sponsers and get some more info from them.
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400rwhp and streetable is very doable.

it's all in the tune.

i'm at 400rwhp cam only (bolt ons) and the only reason my car is "tricky" to drive is the clutch (stage 4 with alum flywheel). and my tune is CRAP at part throttle.

granted you'll get a much tamer car if you use heads, since a smaller cam can be used. but thats also a pretty big increase in cost.

even a set of stage 1 heads, for under $1000 would give you the power boost to get a mild cam over 400rwhp.
something like the 228R cam, with budget heads and you'll be flying high.
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Originally Posted by Gregorya24
i said 400 rhwp with full bolts and cam
Vengence racing VRx4 w/ tune has hit that # on a m6 stock rear driveline
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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ya it would be on a m6, so im thinking about going with the 224/224 with a 114lsa and full bolt ons
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It might be possible to hit 400rwhp with that small of a cam but, again its all in the tune.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Futral f14, LG G5X2, Comp XER 232/236, etc will put you at or over 400rwhp cam only with full bolt ons, they are medium sized cams by present standards and will be ok to DD. I DD'd a TREX V2, so I am not one to really ask about DD, but those cams will get you the power you want. It can be done, but it depends on your definition of streetable.
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Mega Death Cam Only (HPE) I was at 418 in my LS1 GTO. DD just fine, this was my first cam ever.

244/242 .612/.610 112 LSA
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Im hoping to make 400wheel with a Cam Only car. But mine is not driven much. I hope to make 400 though with a MS4, Pacesetter longtubes, Open ORY, FAST 90 intake and 90mm throttle body, SLP ram air lid setup, and some other little free mods, and a good tune.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Why do people think anything over 224 is not streetable? That is just dumb.
I put over 400rwhp with a med-large cam and the car drives just fine. I'm even running cats. I run the Torquer v3
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tsp torquer 2 232/234 .595/.598. i DD mine 300+ miles/wk, dyno'd 413hp/391tq (vid in sig in red) w/ full bolt ons minus u/d pulley. still get 19/27 gas mileage.
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