Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Are my compression figures right?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:04 AM
  #21  
John_D.'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 1
From: Lebanon TN
Default

Aaron, would you mind running one more....

I've got a low compression FI engine that's taking a gob of timing, that I got about 2 years ago, but just got on the road this year. I never did know the compression ratio on it for sure. So I'm trying to figure out if the amount of timing I'm running is reasonable for this engine or not. (22 degrees at torque peak, 24 at max rpm, on 11 psi, no kr)

Stock displacement (347). -16cc Mahle dished pistons. Heads are 241 castings, first generation TEA stage 1's, with "just a clean-up", but I don't know the cc's on them. Stock graphite head gasket. Comp cam 224/228 .581/.588 on 115.

Any help on this is much appreciated!!
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:21 PM
  #22  
405HP_Z06's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,215
Likes: 19
From: Arlington, Tx
Default

Originally Posted by John_D.
Aaron, would you mind running one more....

I've got a low compression FI engine that's taking a gob of timing, that I got about 2 years ago, but just got on the road this year. I never did know the compression ratio on it for sure. So I'm trying to figure out if the amount of timing I'm running is reasonable for this engine or not. (22 degrees at torque peak, 24 at max rpm, on 11 psi, no kr)

Stock displacement (347). -16cc Mahle dished pistons. Heads are 241 castings, first generation TEA stage 1's, with "just a clean-up", but I don't know the cc's on them. Stock graphite head gasket. Comp cam 224/228 .581/.588 on 115.

Any help on this is much appreciated!!
Hi John_D,
Do you know if the cam is ground with any advance or do you know the intake center line? Do you know the piston to deck height clearance? I can estimate with stock short block but with aftermarket pistons all bets are off.
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:04 PM
  #23  
John_D.'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 1
From: Lebanon TN
Default

I really appreciate you looking into this.
I looked all over and finally found the cam card.

It is a 115 +4. Part# 54-000-11.

Valve timing at .050 (open close):
Int: 1 BTDC 43 ABDC
Exh: 53 BBDC 5- ATDC

Does 5- ATDC = 5 BTDC ?

The ICL is 111.


I don't know the story on the piston to deck... I can try to get that info from the builder. Could you run it as stock, and as zero, just in case?
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:14 PM
  #24  
405HP_Z06's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,215
Likes: 19
From: Arlington, Tx
Default

Originally Posted by John_D.
I really appreciate you looking into this.
I looked all over and finally found the cam card.

It is a 115 +4. Part# 54-000-11.

Valve timing at .050 (open close):
Int: 1 BTDC 43 ABDC
Exh: 53 BBDC 5- ATDC

Does 5- ATDC = 5 BTDC ?

The ICL is 111.


I don't know the story on the piston to deck... I can try to get that info from the builder. Could you run it as stock, and as zero, just in case?
John_D.:
I looked up the specs for the Mahle pistons that you most likely have. According to Mahle, the specs are as follows:
Part #:LS1314898I16
Bore:3.898
Stroke:3.622
Rod Length:6.125
Dish:-16cc
Piston Pin Dia:.927
Compression Height:1.314
Weight:400 grams

So, assuming the deck height is stock at 9.240" the pistons would be .010 out of the hole. If the block is decked, the pistons would be further out of the hole increasing compression ratio.

I used a stock LS1 piston ring depth, because I can't find that spec. If the top piston ring is lower it will lower compression slightly.

All that said, this should be very close:
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:24 PM
  #25  
John_D.'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 1
From: Lebanon TN
Default

Thanks!!!!!

I was thinking we were shooting for "around" 9:1, possibly lower with the thought of possibly going with a different head later on.

That helps a bunch!
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:44 PM
  #26  
405HP_Z06's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,215
Likes: 19
From: Arlington, Tx
Default

Originally Posted by John_D.
Thanks!!!!!

I was thinking we were shooting for "around" 9:1, possibly lower with the thought of possibly going with a different head later on.

That helps a bunch!
Mahle advertises 9:1 with those pistons and a 64cc head, so it sounds like your where you want to be.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE