tsp 228r or the tsp torquer v.2
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tsp 228r or the tsp torquer v.2 im going to get one of the two but i just want to get some opinions and answers and im tiered of doing searches. i have a 99 z28 m6 and its my daily driver i do alot of racing and all i have is pacesetter lt's and borla cat back i want to know if i should just buy the whole cam kit? And how much power people have made with my set up?? thank you for your time
I Have The Tsp Torquer V2 When I Called Tsp John Told Me The 228 And The V2 Are Pretty Similar. I Choose The 112 Lsa For The Choppy Sound But I Wish I Knew How The 228 Acted. My Car Made 411 Hp And 383 Tq But The Power Doesn't Come In Untill About 3k I Think The 228 Would Have Been A Better Choice Given That Its Alittle Smaller So The Power Would Come In Sooner Rather Than Later. My Car Will Also Pull To 7k And Make Power Easy The 228 Will Drop Off Earlyer. Depends On How Ur Going To Drive The Car.
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Well you definetly want the cam kit. and I would go with dual coil springs.
I just received my tsp torquer v2 cam kit from John a couple of weeks ago. I was torn between the v2 and the 228r. I told him I wanted a cam that came on quick and made full power by 63-6400 rpm's. I told him most of my driving was highway, and I do some highway runs against various cars. he told me the v2 would fit me better than the 228r.
and I would see better mid to upper rpm hp/pulling power.
so Im getting it installed this weekend. I will not be able to get it tuned for about a month, but I was told it will be alright until then. my car is a M6...
I'll let you know how it does and the characteristics of the cam in a week or so...
I just received my tsp torquer v2 cam kit from John a couple of weeks ago. I was torn between the v2 and the 228r. I told him I wanted a cam that came on quick and made full power by 63-6400 rpm's. I told him most of my driving was highway, and I do some highway runs against various cars. he told me the v2 would fit me better than the 228r.
and I would see better mid to upper rpm hp/pulling power.
so Im getting it installed this weekend. I will not be able to get it tuned for about a month, but I was told it will be alright until then. my car is a M6...
I'll let you know how it does and the characteristics of the cam in a week or so...
if you are staying with your stock heads I would suggest the 228, if you are getting any work done to the heads I would get the T2, as you can have the heads pick it up a bit down low.
I have a v2, with a FAST 90, headers and corsa.... I am afraid I don't understand everyones bitch about the "3k not as much power" gripe. Explain to me one type of race that is going to require you be below 3k? I drive this car around town, and it does fine under 3k. If you want to race up to 3k RPM's and then shut off, get a maggie.
My tune isn't even 100% (hesitation at 2100RPM's), and I can say that this cam is 100% street able, and that people who are bitching about the "no power before 3k RPM's" are really just bitching just to bitch.
Thats just my opinion
. Get the v2, and go cobra killin' .
My tune isn't even 100% (hesitation at 2100RPM's), and I can say that this cam is 100% street able, and that people who are bitching about the "no power before 3k RPM's" are really just bitching just to bitch.
Thats just my opinion
. Get the v2, and go cobra killin' . I have a v2, with a FAST 90, headers and corsa.... I am afraid I don't understand everyones bitch about the "3k not as much power" gripe. Explain to me one type of race that is going to require you be below 3k? I drive this car around town, and it does fine under 3k. If you want to race up to 3k RPM's and then shut off, get a maggie.
My tune isn't even 100% (hesitation at 2100RPM's), and I can say that this cam is 100% street able, and that people who are bitching about the "no power before 3k RPM's" are really just bitching just to bitch.
Thats just my opinion. Get the v2, and go cobra killin' .
My tune isn't even 100% (hesitation at 2100RPM's), and I can say that this cam is 100% street able, and that people who are bitching about the "no power before 3k RPM's" are really just bitching just to bitch.
Thats just my opinion
. Get the v2, and go cobra killin' .
Torquer 2 is good for power from 3000-6800. It doesnt have much low end power. It has some bucking and surging below 1500 RPM. If you do go with a Tqr 2 I'd say get gears along with it, at least 3.73s and if you have an A4 get at least a 3600 stall.
I'm with optimal, why would power below 3000rpm matter? If you are racing below 3000rpm you have bigger issues than not knowing what cam to choose 
If you are grocery getting and staying under 3k, WOT power just doesn't matter
If you are grocery getting and staying under 3k, WOT power just doesn't matter
I guess I didn't think about my car having different gears, but either way, sub 3k power is pointless in racing. I thought the cam was going to be real gay as far DDing goes, but as it turns out the only thing I dislike is the sewing machine (added valve train noise).
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So the 2000 to 3000 rpm torque range is very important. May even be more important then HP above 6400 rpms
Gearing
4.10s and automatics on road course just dont cut it and are not competitive. Road course need 3.42 or 3.73 MN6s. Guys with the MN12s have poor 2nd gears, so they slug it out in 3rd gear, again down to the 1500 -2500 rpm range were that torque is needed.
* a slow corner my be from being a very tight corner, or in most cases you are about to pass slower lapped traffic.
Road racing, out of slow corners* in 3rd and some times 2nd gear. Your down in the 1500 to 2100 rpm range and need to accelerate like there was no tomorrow.
So the 2000 to 3000 rpm torque range is very important. May even be more important then HP above 6400 rpms
Gearing
4.10s and automatics on road course just dont cut it and are not competitive. Road course need 3.42 or 3.73 MN6s. Guys with the MN12s have poor 2nd gears, so they slug it out in 3rd gear, again down to the 1500 -2500 rpm range were that torque is needed.
* a slow corner my be from being a very tight corner, or in most cases you are about to pass slower lapped traffic.
So the 2000 to 3000 rpm torque range is very important. May even be more important then HP above 6400 rpms
Gearing
4.10s and automatics on road course just dont cut it and are not competitive. Road course need 3.42 or 3.73 MN6s. Guys with the MN12s have poor 2nd gears, so they slug it out in 3rd gear, again down to the 1500 -2500 rpm range were that torque is needed.
* a slow corner my be from being a very tight corner, or in most cases you are about to pass slower lapped traffic.
I haven't done anything but straight line romping with the v2, but from what I have done before I don't ever remember being below 2500 EVER on any course (AutoX or RR). But then again I am sure that the course you are racing on and the one's I've been on are quite different so. With that said I believe that the v2 is a great all around cam, and you will be satisfied with which ever one you go with. I got my cam on the spur of the moment, and honestly I was looking at smaller cams like the tr224 or 224/224 from TSP. I am very happy with the one I went with, so back to the question: I would go with the v2 over the 224 or 228 that I had been looking at if I knew then what I know now, and was looking at buying new and all that jazz.
Last edited by Optimal; Apr 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM.