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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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i've found a deal on a MS4 cam and was wondering if it would be a good choice for my 2005 5.3 Crew Cab truck w/ 3000 stall and 4.10 gears?
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy
i've found a deal on a MS4 cam and was wondering if it would be a good choice for my 2005 5.3 Crew Cab truck w/ 3000 stall and 4.10 gears?
Rumpity Rumpity. I've got an MS4 in a stalled Z28 with 3.73 gears and have loved. If tuned properly, you can daily drive that cam without much of a headache.

You'll love it!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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I'd be a little more thoughtful about this one than many will be...the reason I say this is that you've got to consider the extra weight you're going to be hauling over say an F-body or Corvette. You'd definitely want more convertor to help get that truck moving, but then you're not going to be able to tow with the rig like if you had that smaller stall in there.

So unless you're determined to make this a race truck, I'd consider a bit smaller camshaft like our 220R cam or a few other we get from CompCams for our truck driving friends! These smaller cams will retain more of your bottom end and mid-range power which is VERY improtant in these heavy trucks!

Let me know if I can help with your combo, and we'll get you into a setup that you'll be happy with!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
I'd be a little more thoughtful about this one than many will be...the reason I say this is that you've got to consider the extra weight you're going to be hauling over say an F-body or Corvette. You'd definitely want more convertor to help get that truck moving, but then you're not going to be able to tow with the rig like if you had that smaller stall in there.

So unless you're determined to make this a race truck, I'd consider a bit smaller camshaft like our 220R cam or a few other we get from CompCams for our truck driving friends! These smaller cams will retain more of your bottom end and mid-range power which is VERY improtant in these heavy trucks!

Let me know if I can help with your combo, and we'll get you into a setup that you'll be happy with!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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PTV clearance on a 5.3 though? You should call Texas Speed to double check. It barely clears on Ls1's so I would check about the the 5.3.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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DONT put that cam in a 5.3... especially not in a crew cab.

go smaller, the 220 or 224 would be your range... custom grind for your specifis goals is always what I suggest, I run a 224'ish custom grind in mine. hit up performancetrucks.net and look around at the setups, that will give you a better idea of what you should be looking at for that thing.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by yyz28
Rumpity Rumpity. I've got an MS4 in a stalled Z28 with 3.73 gears and have loved. If tuned properly, you can daily drive that cam without much of a headache.

You'll love it!
you have no idea how to make a truck go fast do you... its a whole different ball game...
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by connexion2005
PTV clearance on a 5.3 though? You should call Texas Speed to double check. It barely clears on Ls1's so I would check about the the 5.3.
Yeah, call TSP. But try to talk to Trevor or one of the Jons, aviod talking to Matt@texaspeed lol
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Yeah, trucks need lots of low end torque to move out. That's why my dad's bully dogged F350 powerstroke rolls!!!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
you have no idea how to make a truck go fast do you... its a whole different ball game...
No, I guess not really.

...still about power to weight isn't it? ...but I 'spose with a heavier vehicle you need torque over the band over horsepower. That makes sence.

...I was really just speaking to the cam itself. I love it. It can be dialed in for daily driving despite what some have said. It rips. ...but that's experience with an LS6, not a 5.3.
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less cam, and more converter/gear gets it done in these pigs... just watch that little vid of mine... my cam is little by ya'lls standards but it gets the job done... its about combo, not just a hodge-podge of parts that "people like"
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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heres an ms3 in a truck..lq9 tho......Doctors of Performance
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Just as Matt stated above, definitely reconsider your cam choice here. The MS4 is WAY too big for a 5.3L motor aside from the fact that it is in a truck. IMO, a 224 cam is over-camming a 5.3 motor. With the added weight, the low end hp/tq loss is more noticeable than what you see out of the cars. We have run a 214/218 on a 110+4 with good results. I would look at something with similar duration. You could probably go alittle bigger on cam with a converter...
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for a CC 5.3, 3k stall w/ 4.10's go no bigger than a 220.
i'd say 218 to be all around.

Originally Posted by CAMAROZ28AQUINO
heres an ms3 in a truck..lq9 tho......Doctors of Performance

wow i could do that when my truck was stock and the brakes would hold the truck back and not walk.

needs to get that idle surging fixed too
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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thanks for all the input, guys.

after hearing from silver-mod-o, texas speed, and especially bluecajun5.3, i'll have to pass on this cam. i believe i'll shoot for a 220.

bluecajun5.3, i haven't checked performancetrucks lately; how's that n2o setup running? i know the install pics i saw were awesome.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CAMAROZ28AQUINO
heres an ms3 in a truck..lq9 tho......Doctors of Performance
What does that mean?? I had a ford festiva that I could pull the e-brake on & burn the front tires off but it wasn't very fast.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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I ran a 216/220 comp in my 5.3 and it was a really good cam. I was still able to pull my racecar with no problems. it was on a 114 ls but i think i would have liked it a bit better on a 112 or 110.
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy
thanks for all the input, guys.

after hearing from silver-mod-o, texas speed, and especially bluecajun5.3, i'll have to pass on this cam. i believe i'll shoot for a 220.

bluecajun5.3, i haven't checked performancetrucks lately; how's that n2o setup running? i know the install pics i saw were awesome.
thanks jonny!
it must be doing pretty good b/c i surely can't catch traction for nothing.
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