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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Default Head/Cam install DONE!

Patriot Performance Stage 2 - 5.3L heads
TSP 232R 232/224 .595/.588 112lsa cam

Both are in!! w00t!

The car sounds awesome, it idles a lot rougher than I thought it would, but nothing tuning cant fix.
A friend of mine, Tim P did most of the work this weekend, since I had literally no idea what was entailed. I bought him lunch all weekend and I'll be buying him some 15" welds for his car, he deserves them! We managed to knock it out in ~ 20 hours, this was also with MULTIPLE rain delays, and a 2 hour delay because I bought the wrong pully puller, and 6 other people who we asked to go get us one didnt have the mental capacity to pick the right one up for us, oh well, what do they care, not their car right?
Whomever said that scraping down the block with the ice scrapper would ONLY talke 10-15mins is on crack, that took for EVER. I'd have to say the most daunting tasks were: Cleaning the bolt holes, pulling the crack pully off (**** you pully), torquing the heads, putting the crank pulley back on (**** you again crank pulley, we bent my OEM one, tim had an extra one), stupid radiator.

All in all it was 'fun' to say the least. I have to go get this thing tuned now...will keep everyone updated.

-Steve
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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Congrats!

lets see some dyno results!
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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Congrats, sounds like you had lots of fun.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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I got the same heads, they came in the other day but I am still waiting on the cam. I can't wait!!! Is your car a M6 or A4.

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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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M6 man, A4 would realllllly need tuning no matter what.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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Steve,
I think you're on crack. Your car fired right up WAY smoother than the other 2 I've done. Tom agreed that it was way smoother than he expected. No valvetrain noise on startup was a BIG surprise. It idles fine but the computer needs some time to learn what's going on. Be patient.
The Patriot heads looked pretty nice in terms of the port work and finished results. I'll be interested to see what you pick up for HP. TSP sold him the whole install kit and it covered everything we needed to complete the job.

The pulley puller is an autozone OEM brand and the part number for the good one is 27011. Don't get anything else.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Cleaning bolt holes and scraping gaskets . I used a razor along with an ice scraper and brake cleaner. Longest part of the job for me.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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Any helpful tips on how to put the pulley back??
I'll be helping my friend this afternoon.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Tips for the pully:

Clean the inside of it before putting it back on with brake cleaner.
Clean the crank snout w/ brake cleaner.

Get a blick of wood long enough for someone on top to hold it up
Grab a big f'n hammer
have someone lay on the ground and pound away at that bitch
once it's on a little bit, get the OLD crank bolt and try and thread it in, even a little bit, then use a huge breaker bar combo and tigten it on, i *think* 150 ft/lbs then remove it, make sure the car doesnt move, cause it will want to, then, put the new one on, and snug it tight, i think gm spec is 37ft/lbs but we did 70, another vette tim did had it leak up there because it came loose !!!

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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Cleaning bolt holes and scraping gaskets . I used a razor along with an ice scraper and brake cleaner. Longest part of the job for me.
Ditto, I did all that b!tch work, tim did the other stuff, it sucked hard core =\

-Steve
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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I just purchased a longer bolt with the same pitch threads and got it started that way. It took me forever to find the right bolt at a hardware store. The Crank bolt is huge!
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Are the heads shaved any? I am waiting for mt H/C, the yshould be here this week.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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No, hell no, I had them unshaved. With the lift and any shaving i would be reallllly concerned about PtoV, but as it stands, these fit and work AWESOME!
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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I'm glad to hear that you're pleased with the results! FYI, the cam is a 232/228, not a 232/224. Let us know when you have some results!
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Head/Cam install DONE!

Yeah, I realized that later in the day, i'll edit that

As for performance, I can totally tell my manifolds, exhaust leak, and ls1 intake are killing me, I have lots of work to do still, so I'm not expecting stellar results with this setup .......yet.
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