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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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It seems like it will be a very nice street/dd cam that will make a good increase in torque and power vs. the stocker. Also it should not surge or buck right?

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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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I think that's even smaller than the hotcam. You might find a much better deal by going with the hotcam if you are looking for something that small.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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well i am hesitant of the hotcam because of the surging that the cam has down low, I just want to know what type of power this cam would make.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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That cam is so small its not really even worth it imo. You can go a quite a bit bigger than that, and not have surge. I just wouldnt put any money and time into putting that thing in.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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You'll make more power no doubt, but is a little bigger than the LS6 cam with about the same spring rate other than the 114LSA. If that's what your going for is a street grind. It should not buck at all and give you better mid range but if you have the LS1 intake, swap to an LS6 definitely at the minimal even if you don't have headers.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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You can get a cam like a 228/232 and it won,t buck or surge at all. I have a 232/234 and no surging or bucking. All you need is a good tuner and you will be set. The cam you have selected 218/221 is way to small to justify having it installed and tuned. Maybe 20-25rwhp. You would get more power from a set of longtubes then you would from that cam. Jet Hot Long Tube Headers w/ Cats, and Y-pipe 98-02 LS1 899.95 from lmperformance. Hope this helps.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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yeah thats a baby cam. the thunder racing 224/224 cam is great for a DD no surge at all and over 400hp on an 01
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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I know my other cam choices and i know i need longtubes and ls6 intake but i live in california and both of those are illegal of my 1999 car. I was just wondering about the power this cam would produce. I know it is a smaller cam but anything larger then a 224 and i cant pass emissions and i dont want a cam that will chew up valve springs or be hard on my valvetrain since i have 99k on the clock.
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228/232 115lsa has passed before in ca
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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228/232 115lsa has passed before in ca
ya i am not sure i want to go that route. I know i can run ethanol also which has zero emissions.
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You could have a sponsor custom grind you a cam designed for passing CA emissions.

PM Pat G, I'm sure he can take care of you.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JScamaro
You could have a sponsor custom grind you a cam designed for passing CA emissions.

PM Pat G, I'm sure he can take care of you.
ok thanks, any ideas how much a custom cam will run me? i was thinking like $450?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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cam is usually $379 or $389 I think for custom Comp Grind, which is what Patrick G will spec out for you. I think (don't quote me though) he charges only like $20-$30 for custom grind specs. PM him, he has helped a lot of people with cam choices.

I wish I knew of him before I chose my cam
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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ill be the 1st to answer your question....yes you will gain power and i wouldnt think there would be any bucking....id think a good 30rwhp with the other supporting mods.....I gained 40 rwhp along with 4mph at the track on a so called baby cam...220/224 114....nothing wrong with smaller cams
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"Baby Cam" is great for the DD street car. Mine is 222/224 .566/.568 (.599/.601 w/ 1.8's). Driveability is great and it pulls hard as it get up in the RPM range. The larger the duration you go with, the more power you can make (to a certain point) but you'll sacrafice low end torque, which is where most of your street driving takes place.

I would PM Patrick G with your plans and what you are looking to get out of your car before you decide to order a cam. It's a big decision that should not be rushed. And don't be influenced by others. Take everyones' word with a grain of salt (even mine...). Use the information you receive as a resource to make your OWN decision. Good luck.

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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well thanks everyone. Also would i need to upgrade my pushrods if i run this small cam?
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I wouldn't worry about the mileage as much on a cam, especially a small to mid range. i just slapped a MS3 in at 147k and alot of others have done the same. As long as you replace the lifters, springs, pushrods you should be good to go as long as the rockers are in good shape.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
well thanks everyone. Also would i need to upgrade my pushrods if i run this small cam?
not necessarily...stock pushrods can handle beehive springs like the comp 918s...but for a dual spring you would need hardened pieces.
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I was going to install a comp xr 265hr. I think it was 212/218 558/563 @115. After doing a lot of research, I decided to go wth Custon comp cam 224/224 561/561 @115.(Texas speed has a similar one).I also live in California(near L.A.).I was told by local shops that I could go just under 230 and still pass smog.I wanted a nice smooth DD car that would idle nice,not be hard on the valvetrain,WOULD PASS SMOG,and good on highway trips.I would think about it carefully before you buy a cam.That one is a little small and you would probably end up changing it. I am really happy with my choice.It's really drivable,pulls hard when you stomp on it,drives smooth on highway drives.The tr224 is a good all around cam for DD.Maybe contact Patrick G. and tell him what you want.While your in there I would do the pushrods IMO.Take your time and choose what cam is best for you.
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