offaxis

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hmmmm kinda hard to read that one maby its just the that green color. If you can tell me what the peak power was and if this car is a a4 or m6

Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance

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offaxis-441.5 RWHP & 401RWTq, M6

Brian

offaxis

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thats amazing !! 60 hp from heads

You guys really must know what you are doing .I think Gomer should get his car over to your place fast!!
**** I might have to bring you my car

v8maro

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Hey TSP, sorry for posting shitty results, but I guess thats what you get when you choke the **** out of it. I will be getting the rest of the parts for this combo and putting some nice #'s down. I don't care what he or she said, i noticed a difference and I am happy, thanks again guys.
-Steve

mike m

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what is the compresion, did you have to flycut the pistons?

VSGLS1

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395/373 today, not much left in it. A friend with a TR224 and MMS S2 heads dynoed the same as me 2 hrs earlier. Don't know what the problem is.

mike m

iTrader: (6)

heritage what did the guy with the mms heads dyno?

VSGLS1

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he dynoed 393/374 with MMS S2 heads and TR224, with open cutout. Both of our cars pull strong as hell. We are both in disbelief now.

mike m

iTrader: (6)

was the mms car an a4?

VSGLS1

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M6 2000 TA with LS6 intake, hookers, 224/224 on a 112, lid, cutout, Taylor wires, probably TR6s and edit tuning earlier.

ne14a6t9

Now come on tell the truth he didn't pick up only 19 rwhp and 10 ft/lb torque, it was more like 22 rwhp and 14 ft/lb of torque.

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gomer
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Loc: Albertville, AL
TR220 cam and Patriot Heads Dyno numbers.
#567789 - 06/16/03 06:49 PM



I've had a ton of people mail me wanting to know how my dyno session turned out, so I'll post it here. I bought a set of the Patriot Stage II 5.3 heads and installed them on my car. The car has headers, TR220 cam, Patriot heads, MTI lid, and a B&B triflow exhaust. No Underdrive pulley, No cutout, No LS1edit tuning, Stock MAF and TB, and I dyno'd with my 17x11 rears on. I put down 400.6rwhp and 380.2rwtq on the dynojet
I dont know were the 3 extra hp in his sig came from,

gomer

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I dyno'd again at the bham fbody dyno day two weeks after that inital dyno. About 10 or 15 people from this board witnessed it.

ne14a6t9

O.K Gomer so it is safe to say you got around 20 hp give or take a few for dyno variance, you should agree that you should have gained more, texas speed claims 60 hp from the pp heads alone. looks like you , heritage and v8maro got the short end of the stick.

gomer

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I'm perfectly happy. I would like for you to take time (cause I know you like digging for info) and find me ONE car that is running a cam of 220 duration or smaller that is making more power than me. These damn 23x duration cams are going to make more power when they get heads on them than a cam that was designed more for stock heads like the one I'm running is. My car is getting redyno'd Sat Aug 30, and I can guarantee that it will be significantly higher than 403rwhp.

ne14a6t9

this is the closest thing I can find, a 224 cam, thunder said there is 3- 5 hp differenc max from the 220 cam to the 224 cam


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WS6Modder
Dialing In



Reged: 11/21/01
Posts: 68
Loc: Kansas City, MO
Abs. Speed S2s with TR224 cam
#546694 - 05/31/03 09:12 PM



Thought some might be interested here.

Pre-head numbers were 381/376, post head numbers made 422/404.

Racing it on the 11th for some MPH comparison. Ill dredge this thread up and post that shiat too..

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'99 NBM WS6 Formula M6 Hardtop
Mods - Yep
Dyno - 422/404

I had all my **** listed here....but went to edit it to add some more and got owned by a length rule.

If anyone wants the mod list...email me.


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there you go 41 hp. Gomer, you would have made 3-5 more hp from the 224 cam if you still had the cam only, your car runs great, you should have more than what you have, dont take it that I dont like you or your car, look at the facts and you will see what im talking about.

Special K '01 WS6

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Man can you not read?? I have kept out of this ... but this is like the 10th post I've seen you say TSP claimed 60hp from ONLY heads they NEVER claimed anything such thing... they posted my graph for me after everything was done 441.5rwhp... I had some problems when I was cam only.. it would misfire on the dyno and after about a week or so i started having valve float...i think maybe the springs just weren't quite strong enough maybe... when I had the heads put on I also had a pulley put on and had some new tuning done and my misfire was completely gone and I no longer have any signs at all of any kind of valve float or anything... I know what valve float looks like and I had it (not on that particular graph .. I have other pulls that show it dramatically... It would drop in the high rpms) I am "guesstimating" (sp?) I got about 30 or 40 from the heads (but that is just my assumption since there was some other work done) ...

the fact of the matter is i dynoed 441rwhp and I am Happy ...

ne14a6t9

the claims of misfiring and valve float with the cam only are not evident in the graph, looks like a smooth strong curve to me,

Redlinez

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50 rwhp from a cam and springs and another 60 from heads is what you guys are saying right? That seems frickin awesome to me!

critter

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I don't see why that should be the case. So Patriot is new to the game ... are the rest of us so stupid that some trolls hasveto come on here to protect us from wasting our money? I think that is pretty bold of them to claim that their flaming is to protect us from our own stupitidy. Methinks a couple people desperately need a life. That they have enough time to do extensive research to back their miscalculations and misreading of posts only convinces me of that.

This forum has the possibility to help gearheads in a much better way than in the past. When I left left the game, you had to rely on magazines who wrote about what they got for free, take the advice of the guy at the nearest speed shop, or belive the guys you were racing. This forum is a tremendous opportunity, and then the trolls come along and polute the threads makeing it hard to get anything useful from them. When we used to hang out at Van deKamps, you could ignore them and they would go away but that doesn't work here.

I am modding my new toy, a Y2KZ28, after many years out of the game. The vendors I used to use are not available in the midwest, so I sent out a half a dozen e-mails asking for recommendations. None of the "big name" sponsors here responded. TSP, on the other hand, has been nothing but helpful. It is clear to me that they know their stuff and didn't try to sell me anything I don't need. In fact in one case, they advised me that I didn't need an item. That is refreshing honesty. And, since all the parts are in a pile in the garage, I have nothing to gain with this testimonial.