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Old 09-25-2008, 08:23 PM
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ok, the seller just got back to me..the engine is a U code which is a 2006 motor. Heads are 317 castings..fresh out of the machine shop. worth $800?
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Originally Posted by dre2013
ok, the seller just got back to me..the engine is a U code which is a 2006 motor. Heads are 317 castings..fresh out of the machine shop. worth $800?
I don't know about $800 but ive herd of good conditioned ones going for 3-4.
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Originally Posted by FearTheDeer
I don't know about $800 but ive herd of good conditioned ones going for 3-4.
I guess it depends on where you are...If there is a high demand for something, then the price is usually higher....if there is plentiful supply, then we can assume the prices are very competitive....

In my case, locally I can get an 05 LQ4 (intake to pan) with 60K miles for $700....Which is the lowest price I have seen, and the highest being upwards upto $2000 for an LQ4....

And from what I have seen, it depends on what the engine was out of...We as enthusiasts know that an LQ4 or LQ9 is the same no matter what truck or van they came out of....
But others, like those that run/operate junkyards, dont see it that way...they think if its out of an Escalade or HD Pickup its worth more than if it came out of a Savannah or Express Van....
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Default LS 6 intake

If you look on LS1truck.com should be right on the home page as soon as the site opens up there are complete instructions on what to modify when going from the truck intake to the ls intakes. You will be moving a pulley and grinding a groove in to the alt bracket and a few more steps. But it does show picture for picture instructions. I use it to get the best of both worlds for info. I am putting a 6.0 lq4 into my 68 impala.
Originally Posted by dre2013
i wasnt trying to be a smartass btw, i searched in the gen iv forums and barely found and results at all..8 pages, as compared to the gen iii section where there was 65 pages of info lol...

anyways, i was planning on using an ls6 intake mani, they don't bolt right up to the lq4? what needs to be modified? if it is too much of a bitch, i suppose i could just go with a fast 90/90 setup..probably squeeze a little more power out of it. here is the info the seller gave me on the motor:

"complete low mile LQ4 6.0liter ls motor, alum heads just got back from the machine shop.
complete assy short block
fresh redone heads
complete wiring harness (new style green and blue block)
coil packs
truck intake complete with T body and injectors
some assy brackets "

thanks for all the help
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Default LS 6 intake swap from LS1TRUCK.com

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LS6 Intake Swap



after doing some research and seeing numerous n/a 5.3's and 6L hp flatlineing around 5800 and slowly falling after 6k, i decided to take the plunge and do the ls6 intake swap. the ls6 intake seems to be a proven performed intake that pulls all the way to 6500 in modified engines (ei full boltons, cam, etc...)

stuff you will need to get the job done:

a nice set of various ratchets, sockets, wrenches, etc...
4" electric grinder. (grinding discs/ cutting discs)
fuel line disconnect tool
big 3 jaw puller
1.5 ft of 5/16" & 3/8" fuel line
1 5/16" & 1 3/8" barbed fuel line fitting
6 hose clamps for the hose sizes above
1/8" / barbed fitting
small diameter vacuume line
gallon anti freeze

parts for the job:

ls6 intake
ls1/ls6 intake bolts (can't use the truck ones, they are too short)
97/98 vette fuel rail (for 99 to 03 trucks) or 98 to 02 f body fuel rail (04 & up)
ls1/ls6 style injectors (i chose 28.8#'s b/c i needed bigger ones already)
ls1/ls6 injector pigtails summit part no. MSD-2400
ls1/ls6 water pump
ls1/ls6 map sensor
custom idler pulley relocation bracket

about to get started...

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removed the truck intake. alternator and p/s bracket removed also.
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the fuel rail feed and return line will not clear the coil packs.
action: bend the lines upward to where there is enough clearance
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notice how the fuel rail lines clear the coils
the coolant hard line nipple, needs to be bent out to clear the intake also
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alternator and p/s bracket has to be cut in order to clear the throttle body since the ls6 intake sits alot lower than the truck one
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the bottom of the tb needs to be grinded some in order to clear the top of the water pump.
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new injector pigtails wired up. fuel pressure regulator line goes to small nip in back of the intake.
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pcv line goes to the small nip in the back of the intake also. barbed fuel line fittings are used to connect the fuel lines. evap sensor tucked behind the alternator (use a vacuum line to connect it to the front drivers side nip on the intake)
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since this intake was originally equipped with a cable style tb, i had to drill and tap for 1/8"npt / barbed fitting to hook up the passenger side valve cover vacuum line. also notice the black vacuum cap i plugged onto the intake.
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final product
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if you see anything out of place or think more stuff needs to be added, just put in your input.

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Originally Posted by aNuBiS
The ls6 intake manifold will work great. Bolts up fine.
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I did not write those instructions is just pasted them onto my quote, so the pictures didnt come through. Sorry!!!!!
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Originally Posted by dre2013
ok, the seller just got back to me..the engine is a U code which is a 2006 motor. Heads are 317 castings..fresh out of the machine shop. worth $800?
I dont believe you want that. If I am not mistaken it has a wrong size reluctor wheel. You want an N code. 2005 and lower.
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Originally Posted by aNuBiS
I dont believe you want that. If I am not mistaken it has a wrong size reluctor wheel. You want an N code. 2005 and lower.
IIRC all LQ4's use a 24 tooth reluctor ring (regardless of year) which will work fine with a LS1 wireharness/ECU.
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Originally Posted by MADDYSMODS
So I am putting a LQ4 in my 93 Z28! Has anyone ran into a problem running the LS1 camaro brackets! It looks to me that I have to drill and tap this boss on the Drivers side where the Alt bolts up to! Have we been there before?
You can opt to use 2 of the 3 mounts to bolt the bracket on, or if you insist on having the 3rd one there, read this link:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....64&postcount=8
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thanks for all the good info guys.. another question, will i be able to keep my a/c?
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I have an LQ4 out of a 2005 Silverado. Great engine.

853 heads ported by Lingenfelter
Kooks 1 7/8s LT custom exhaust
Some other mods that dont matter in this.... Moser 12 bolt, T56 built etc.

Before my FAST 92 and PTM 92 install it dino'ed 373 HP and 409 RWTQ. I am hoping guessing I am at 400 RWHP and at least 420 TQ. I have the stock truck motor cam.

With a 235ish cam on a 114 this motor could easily but out 450 to the wheels. Right now I have a torque monster that is fun as hell on the street.

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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
I have an LQ4 out of a 2005 Silverado. Great engine.

853 heads ported by Lingenfelter
Kooks 1 7/8s LT custom exhaust
Some other mods that dont matter in this.... Moser 12 bolt, T56 built etc.

Before my FAST 92 and PTM 92 install it dino'ed 373 HP and 409 RWTQ. I am hoping guessing I am at 400 RWHP and at least 420 TQ. I have the stock truck motor cam.

With a 235ish cam on a 114 this motor could easily but out 450 to the wheels. Right now I have a torque monster that is fun as hell on the street.

Looks like a very stout combo! What is the peak RPM that you've buzzed this thing to? Shift points?
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
I have an LQ4 out of a 2005 Silverado. Great engine.

853 heads ported by Lingenfelter
how much did those heads run you?
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Originally Posted by magic
Looks like a very stout combo! What is the peak RPM that you've buzzed this thing to? Shift points?
Stops making power after 56-5700RPM.

I shift at 6300 RPM usually if Im racing. 6000 RPM just goofing around.

T56
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
Stops making power after 56-5700RPM.

I shift at 6300 RPM usually if Im racing. 6000 RPM just goofing around.

T56
Thats not bad! It goes to show one doesnt need to rev the **** out of a street oriented motor setup like yours...

What rear end gear ratio do you have?
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LOL thats funny that you have to use a GM LSx motor to make your pony car play with the big boys! J/K that should be a sweet little ride when your done! I like to see people go out on a limb! you will learn a thing or two on your adventures!
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When I put my LQ4 together I started out by put in some ARP rodbolts. Then the fbody pickup tube and oilpan. Put the heads on. Changed out the crank pulley from the larger LQ4 to one from a fbody. Used all fbody accesories. Only used two bolts for the alt and haven't had anyproblems. Added LS6 intake. Put a pilot bearing in the back of the crank and then bolted up my T56. My car is only making 400/389 but my heads are completely untouched. If you want to hear it run here's the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deu3AxMWvAc

BTW Thanks for the comment dre. Sorry I don't have any 1/4 times for you.
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Originally Posted by MADDYSMODS
LOL thats funny that you have to use a GM LSx motor to make your pony car play with the big boys! J/K that should be a sweet little ride when your done! I like to see people go out on a limb! you will learn a thing or two on your adventures!
I guess you are talking to me...

I have my reasons of why Im doing an LSx swap into my Mustang...

And yes, It WILL be a sweet ride when its done!
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Originally Posted by magic
Thats not bad! It goes to show one doesnt need to rev the **** out of a street oriented motor setup like yours...

What rear end gear ratio do you have?
373... 31 spline



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