a builder says the tr224-114 is too big for stock???
09-29-2008, 12:56 AM
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I don't want to be shifting really much past 6000. I'm still on stock torque converter. From another member on PT.net who has 6.0, longtubes, and TR224, he said lowend is the same or better than stock. And it burns the tires off at a 30 punch.
09-29-2008, 02:31 AM
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http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...bad+brakes+cam
http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...bad+brakes+cam
that's just two with a quick search. I've read of others having problems.
http://performancetrucks.net/forums/...bad+brakes+cam
that's just two with a quick search. I've read of others having problems.
09-29-2008, 08:35 AM
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112 will have MORE lowend (come in sooner), less topend but LESS peak. Falls off faster and earlier (for those who don't wanna spin to the moon with crappy rod bolts like me).
114 will have LESS low and MORE topend (carry longer) but MORE peak.
People want 112's because they have more lope, power comes in sooner and they don't wanna spin too high to get all the usable power outta the cam. On the negative side the lower LSA the harder it is to tune because there is more overlap.
Cam in sig has a nice flat torque curve and makes 350lbs. + from 3500-6300. It is a fun streetcar for sure
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09-29-2008, 09:51 AM
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Ummm... I think you mean:
112 will have MORE lowend (come in sooner), less topend but LESS peak. Falls off faster and earlier (for those who don't wanna spin to the moon with crappy rod bolts like me).
114 will have LESS low and MORE topend (carry longer) but MORE peak.
People want 112's because they have more lope, power, comes in sooner and they don't wanna spin too high to get all the usable power outta the cam. On the negative side the lower LSA the harder it is to tune because there is more overlap.
Cam in sig has a nice flat torque curve and makes 350lbs. + from 3500-6300. It is a fun streetcar for sure
112 will have MORE lowend (come in sooner), less topend but LESS peak. Falls off faster and earlier (for those who don't wanna spin to the moon with crappy rod bolts like me).
114 will have LESS low and MORE topend (carry longer) but MORE peak.
People want 112's because they have more lope, power, comes in sooner and they don't wanna spin too high to get all the usable power outta the cam. On the negative side the lower LSA the harder it is to tune because there is more overlap.
Cam in sig has a nice flat torque curve and makes 350lbs. + from 3500-6300. It is a fun streetcar for sure
09-29-2008, 09:53 AM
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To the original poster, I have had a lot of customers with 224 cams on 112 LSA and have passed emissions with cats. I even had one customer with a 228 on 114 pass, but the tune needed to be as precise as possible.
Gary, you can't scan the overlap. It is in the cam design, you basically take the intake and exhaust durations and based on the LSA (with some math) you will figure out the overlap. Based on the info you posted, the ASA cam has 11 degrees of overlap based on my math.
I am his tuner, but I did not tell him that.
I am his tuner, but I did not tell him that.
09-29-2008, 10:17 AM
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I'm not trying to be an *** or anything, I'm trying to learn. If I'm wrong about those assumptions I'd like to know. I'm just applying what I know to a whole new type of engine.
09-30-2008, 03:50 PM
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10-01-2008, 01:24 AM
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If your builder says the TR224 is to big for stock well then he might say my T/A with bolt ons and the MS3 defies the laws of physics. The TR224 will be a real good all around cam, better than stock and will drive like its stock.
-Joel
-Joel