thinking about a cam!
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From: Crystal Springs, MS
thinking about a cam! thinking about a cam for my stock 99 ls1. stock ls1 intake manifold and heads. everyone keeps screaming tr224. also read about the tr230 (split and reverse patters) then someone had mentioned the texas speed 231/237, what you guys think. i have longtubes and p/p tb and ss3600,
if i do go with any one of these cams can i go with heads and better intake later will i be looking for a bigger cam?
say texas speed 5.3 heads and fast 90?
if i do go with any one of these cams can i go with heads and better intake later will i be looking for a bigger cam?
say texas speed 5.3 heads and fast 90?
I always recommend choosing the cam based off your other mods, not the other way around. If you know you're going to install an aftermarket cylinder head and intake combo, headers, etc down the road for sure, then use that info to choose the best camshaft for your tastes! A camshaft that works best for a completely stock vehicle will not be optimal for a vehicle with all the aftermarket bolt on mods.
Let us know what your plan is, and we'd be glad to help you pick a camshaft that fits your needs and goals!
Let us know what your plan is, and we'd be glad to help you pick a camshaft that fits your needs and goals!
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i like the way he put it....do a lot of pre planning before you go out and just buy stuff. have realisitic goals for the car and stick to them.
the reverse split is a great cam, much like the 224 but with more top end and loads of torque with great street manners
the reverse split is a great cam, much like the 224 but with more top end and loads of torque with great street manners
I always recommend choosing the cam based off your other mods, not the other way around. If you know you're going to install an aftermarket cylinder head and intake combo, headers, etc down the road for sure, then use that info to choose the best camshaft for your tastes! A camshaft that works best for a completely stock vehicle will not be optimal for a vehicle with all the aftermarket bolt on mods.
Let us know what your plan is, and we'd be glad to help you pick a camshaft that fits your needs and goals!
Let us know what your plan is, and we'd be glad to help you pick a camshaft that fits your needs and goals!
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From: Crystal Springs, MS
well my transmission just died so i'm spinnding a good bit of money on that. but i know what you guys mean. aight this is what i would like to do. got an ls1 with 145000 miles on it i want to keep the stock intake manifold and heads. i have pacesetters and ory and getting a hooker aero chamber. i want a good cam for this setup so i can make good under the curve power and not loose my top end pull. i'm keeping this setup as is no heads no intake just want a good cam for this setup while i save up for one of texas speeds 408 longblocks!!!
You can find a good used LS6 intake for a couple hundred bucks on here. I know you said you want to stick with the LS1 intake, but trust me, the LS6 will make a significant difference as you start throwing more power at the car. It would kinda be like throwing a cam in a car without headers. Basically you would be throwing more air at it without improving its ability to breathe. The air must get in and out as quickly as possible. As already stated, come up with a well devised plan for what you want from the car. Then choose a cam based on your other mods so you have a complete package. Planning up front will save you a lot of wasted time and money...and it will be a "custom fit" for you instead of what everyone else recommends.
You can find a good used LS6 intake for a couple hundred bucks on here. I know you said you want to stick with the LS1 intake, but trust me, the LS6 will make a significant difference as you start throwing more power at the car. It would kinda be like throwing a cam in a car without headers. Basically you would be throwing more air at it without improving its ability to breathe. The air must get in and out as quickly as possible. As already stated, come up with a well devised plan for what you want from the car. Then choose a cam based on your other mods so you have a complete package. Planning up front will save you a lot of wasted time and money...and it will be a "custom fit" for you instead of what everyone else recommends.
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thanks for all the input guys. alright thinking now i shoud have kept the idea of heads and intake out of it. i know what my goal is and what i am looking for and that is as i said b4 - ls1 stock intake stock heads, i already have pacesetters and ory p/p throttle body and lid and a yank ss3600. i am in favor of the tr230/224 reverse split b/c i will be running the stock intake.
if and only if i do andthing else right now it would be a ls6 intake and i have read a bunch of guys talking about the same set up and they love it. what do you think. this will be my setup til i can afford the 408 i want
if and only if i do andthing else right now it would be a ls6 intake and i have read a bunch of guys talking about the same set up and they love it. what do you think. this will be my setup til i can afford the 408 i want
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you will be happy with the 230/224 reverse split cam. i was up in the air on the 231/237 cam myself. but i ended up going with the old MTI X1 230/227 cam. i did make 395rwhp with that cam on stock heads with my vig 3200.
thanks for all the input guys. alright thinking now i shoud have kept the idea of heads and intake out of it. i know what my goal is and what i am looking for and that is as i said b4 - ls1 stock intake stock heads, i already have pacesetters and ory p/p throttle body and lid and a yank ss3600. i am in favor of the tr230/224 reverse split b/c i will be running the stock intake.
if and only if i do andthing else right now it would be a ls6 intake and i have read a bunch of guys talking about the same set up and they love it. what do you think. this will be my setup til i can afford the 408 i want
if and only if i do andthing else right now it would be a ls6 intake and i have read a bunch of guys talking about the same set up and they love it. what do you think. this will be my setup til i can afford the 408 i want
Checkout our camshaft dyno comparison thread, that should help show camshaft power differences. With TSP's dyno testing data we can show you exact power differences from our camshafts!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=cam+dyno
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=cam+dyno
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Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
The torquer 2 works well, but honestly the Torquer 3 is better across the board...
We posted dyno sheets of before & after the T3, I believe it gained about 83 flywheel horsepower!
Baseline
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/stock.jpg
228R
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/228r.jpg
Torquer 3
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/torquer.jpg
We posted dyno sheets of before & after the T3, I believe it gained about 83 flywheel horsepower!
Baseline
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/stock.jpg
228R
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/228r.jpg
Torquer 3
http://www.precisionracecomponents.com/torquer.jpg
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994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
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Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
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Free Ram Air mod. It involves cutting the black plastic piece out of the bottom of your lower airbox. When you take your lid and filter out, you will see that the bottom of the air box is sealed up, and the only incoming air is from the small opening in the front of the airbox. Fbodies are bottom breathers, meaning they pull air from underneath in front of the air deflector. So why not open up the bottom and give that air somewhere to go? Also, once you cut out the bottom of your air box, there is a small flap in front of the A/C condenser you will want to cut. This is a great free mod that takes under 30 minutes. Here is a link with step by step detailed instructions
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm
i have the TQR vIII and i think someone stated it right that i would not reccomend that as a stock-headed cam. dont get me wrong, its a great cam and could be a DD cam, but for your goals and assuming stock LS1 intake, id go with 228R
TR230 111lsa is another good one if you want that nasty hard lope,
but you really do neeeeed to consider the LS6, strongly, if yo uare planning on getting this stuff tuned (which you should) its going to be SOOOO much better and more driveable if everything is together then, including LS6 intake
TR230 111lsa is another good one if you want that nasty hard lope,
but you really do neeeeed to consider the LS6, strongly, if yo uare planning on getting this stuff tuned (which you should) its going to be SOOOO much better and more driveable if everything is together then, including LS6 intake
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thats what i like to hear some good feedback thanks guys just want to get a head start when looking for my cam. and yeah the guy that owned the car before me cut the airbox. and i have been looking for a ls6 intake also i know it will help weather i do the cam or not. any other advice would be great but thanks a ton. see yall on the streets when i get the poor 60e fixed...