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Old 11-13-2009, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ssfast99
wow that custom 1 off system looks like the y pipe is choking the crap out of that system. and think of the gas flow in a pipe as exhuast will flow together instead of gasses seperating. my fabricator put it this way. Exhaust gasses dont seperate so if it can flow in the least restrictive direction which would be the largest pipe. all i know is i made more power with 4" instead of my old 3" dumped setup and i moved from a 10 bolt to a 9".
I thought the same thing, definitely need to have a merge collector there to flow better.

Where are the pics of your system? Also, what mufflers were you running before with your dual system, and what are you running now on your 4"? Lastly, do you have the dyno sheet? What is the motor setup that you made more power with the 4" rather than the 3"? Just trying to get some more information, and a dyno sheet would be sweet.
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It seems to be doing alright so far. Better then most setups so far.
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Yea, i know they have it, and that the muffler blows. That's part of the reason why I'm probably leaning away from it. I don't want to have to purchase the whole deal, and then spend another 700 on a cutout, mufflers, piping, labor on top of the 600 it already costs.
Mufflex now has this:

Part# 98402CM
4 inch Catback Kit for 1998 - 2002 LS1 Camaro / Firebird
Fits 98-02 LS1 V8 cars with Dual type catalyist (or off road Y pipe form long tube headers).
This unit uses a Magnaflow ® straight through 4" race muffler.
Recommended for Turbo cars and cars with other power adders for extreme HP appilcations.
cars with other power adders for extreme HP applications
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That is no different then what I have seen there. It is also a single hideaway tip, I want dual tips to the back. Thanks tho.
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I love the Mufflex 4" system. I only have a 382, but was going to build a 427 or 440ish motor. Before I bought the system, they had me go to a site with a car running in the 8's with over 900HP with their 4" system. They claim their system will handle over 900HP.

I started with the Kooks 1 7/8"X3" Stainless Race Hedder and 3"ORY-Pipe. Then mated that to the 4" over the axle to the SpinTech muffler which exited to dual 3" pipes out the back, with the chrome tips they had sent. I had a friend fabricate the dual tips as I had the CME on the 02SS. It sounded great and got tons of compliments on the unique design of the exit of the tips. If I went to the bigger motors, I would definately get the 2"X3.5" hedders. I wish I had a sound clip. Cruising the tone was docile and when you nailed it, it sounded awesome. I had a convertible, so with the top down I could enjoy the sweet music, (tone). I will try to get pics as my computer crashed and am now on a laptop and I have temporarily lost all of my pics. I would recommend the BMR upper Panard bar which made much more room for the dual 3" or single 4" tubes over the axle. There were no problems, even with the factory heat sheilds intact.

Good Luck with your choice.
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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
4" has more area than 2x3"

and how will that be ?
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Originally Posted by Haans249
I thought the same thing, definitely need to have a merge collector there to flow better.

Where are the pics of your system? Also, what mufflers were you running before with your dual system, and what are you running now on your 4"? Lastly, do you have the dyno sheet? What is the motor setup that you made more power with the 4" rather than the 3"? Just trying to get some more information, and a dyno sheet would be sweet.
Sorry I have been busy but I just emailed then to you. The mufflers for the dual system were bullet mufflers but it has been so long I can't remember the make. The muffler I use now is a single chamber race flowmaster muffler that impressed me cause I hate flowmaster. I will have to look for the dyno sheets but I have the latest one if you want me to email it or put the dyno sheet on here. My motor is 100% stock short block with 243 patriot head's (small valves), T-rex cam, old flp hearders, victor jr, intake elbow with NW 90mm, and pro flow carb plate for nitrous. Nothing special lol.

Let me know if you need any more information. I can bolt the exhaust up if you want pictures on the car.
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here is what i found on mufflex site


This unit is a 4" Catback Kit for The 1998 to 2001 LS1 Camaro & Firebird.

This unit features a Spintech tm Crossflow Style Muffler and Dual 3" Tailpipes along with Round to Oval Stainless Tips.
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Originally Posted by ssfast99

Nice simple & it works. Can't believe how much it looks like mine. 3.5 Collectors into 4 to the back. Tho I have "Flowtech Racereadies" just off the Collectors for manually opening the Headers. I heard too much pro & con on dual electric cutout consistancy which was my original choice off each collector.
I Had the GMMG Bullit for a while, but noise got to me other than WOT.....lol. Now have the largest Corsa rear muffler with 3.5 outlets.
I Got alot of good info here for an overall redo of my rear over axle/muffler setup. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Haans249
That is no different then what I have seen there. It is also a single hideaway tip, I want dual tips to the back. Thanks tho.
You might be able to get it with dual outlets. Mufflex can build it with any muffler you want, they just don't advertise them on their site.

Didn't you ask about an exhaust awhile ago, I thought we discussed it before. Anyway, here's a link to my custom Mufflex system. I would recommend a 3.5-4" single exhaust. The sound is so clean with the right muffler and you should definitley pick up the power you're losing with your current setup. I will admit though, it's probably going to bang. The piping is huge, my over the axle pipe hits, I don't care but I'm just being honest.

Stainless piping bigger then 3" is expensive, which is why Mufflex doesn't offer it. Take a look at how much Stainless Works 3.5" catback is, I think it's around $800.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...aust-pics.html
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Here's my 4 inch single exhaust:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedi...pics-vids.html
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Seems like you've decided on a plan. However if you need a 3" Flowmaster over the axle pipe, I have one laying round up in Kansas.
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Is there any place to purchase the 4" over the axle pipe? I contacted mufflex but did not get a response.
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Originally Posted by InsaneAuto86
Is there any place to purchase the 4" over the axle pipe? I contacted mufflex but did not get a response.
Did you call them?
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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
4" has more area than 2x3"
No.
Do the math, you will see otherwise..
Originally Posted by Engine_HP
and how will that be ?
Same thing I thought as soon as I read it..the dual 3" out-flows a single 4".

That and you can't beat the sound of TD's..
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4in mufflex both ways.
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Originally Posted by Grifter
Did you call them?
Yes. Mufflex only sells complete systems. Any other ideas? Most shops cannot bend 4" pipe.
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Dr Gas look them up.
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Originally Posted by InsaneAuto86
Yes. Mufflex only sells complete systems. Any other ideas? Most shops cannot bend 4" pipe.
not sure where you guys are at but mufflex will make whatever you want at their shop. last time i was in there they didnt do any of the bending. they had stockpiles of pre bent mandrel tubes which they cut and sectioned for the exhaust.


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