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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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In that video they claim the intake makes 50 more horsepower. I would love to see a dyno graph of it.
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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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...........I'm not sure why they went after patents, I think the MSD and the FAST both have some patents as well, but it will be interesting in the future.

Sadly, I have cathedral port heads......

But it is exciting to see this come to market.......
I would spend the time and money up front for patents as well if the design concepts used set me apart from the competition and protected the performance gap I worked so hard to create. There are a number of companies profiting greatly from game changer design concepts and individuals set to retire comfortably for their intelligent designs and patents to protect them for awhile to make hay while the sun shines.

The VR-X will come in a cathedral port version after the LS3 and LS7 versions so cathedral heads will benefit as well....at least that is what I was told.
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
I would spend the time and money up front for patents as well if the design concepts used set me apart from the competition and protected the performance gap I worked so hard to create. There are a number of companies profiting greatly from game changer design concepts and individuals set to retire comfortably for their intelligent designs and patents to protect them for awhile to make hay while the sun shines.

The VR-X will come in a cathedral port version after the LS3 and LS7 versions so cathedral heads will benefit as well....at least that is what I was told.
Very interesting to hear about the cathedral port version. I'll wait and see what happens.
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 01:09 PM
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I have been reading about this intake on other forums and some info has been posted regarding the power curves. If what I have read is true this is exciting. Hehehe. I will just patiently wait for it.
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Old Oct 19, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Funny you mention that, it was on TV here last night !! from Youtube.

Intake is from 12m30s onwards

How it's Made Dream Cars Falcon F7 - YouTube
I learn something new on almost every episode of this show, love it.
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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The latest update from Vararam. Lot of negativity on the other forum that I have not seen on this forum and the Corvette forum.

"We understand everyone wants this manifold yesterday!
This is more than just “one” manifold, its several manifolds in one.
There is a lot more going on inside a manifold than just airflow to make power.
We have addressed “everything”, not just one thing.
Here is what we can say, any manufacturer who follows the OEM architecture will never make the power and Torque possible out of any combination. The consumer just wants a “new better toy”, so anything new must be an improvement, until it proves it’s not.
You can port the stock manifold until the cows come home! You will never match the VR-X. You can use any current aftermarket manifolds ported or stock and you still won’t get there.
We chose the more difficult path because that’s what works best.
GM does not use the OEM design architecture on their race program cars, for a reason.
The C-5,C6 and C7R’s all use Cross Rams. The COPO cars use several different manifold designs.
Runners in a breadbox never works for Max Torque and Power. It’s great for ease of tooling, speeds production and keeps it cheap for the OEM.
The new production LT-1 is a runner in a breadbox design and it’s not the best by any means, but it’s quick and easy for production, great for GM.
Hood clearance, The VR-X fits under the rear cowl of a C-6 corvette .This is the lowest overhang on the GM line up for an LS-3.
We could have released pics and video with “Patent Pending” status but that does not mean you will receive a “Patent” at all. The technology we have developed inside this manifold is far beyond where the aftermarket is today and we are going to protect it properly.
Gen6,LT-1- This manifold is undergoing Beta tests on our C-7 Corvette.

VR tech "
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 03:07 PM
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Essentially what Patrick at Vararam told me 2 weeks ago when I called and spoke to him at length. They have all the tooling done except for a couple parts waiting on patents just in case the patents are rejected. He didn't want pinned down on a time-frame but said hypothetically if the patents were approved today you're looking at 2-3 months to make it to retail. Immediately followed by the LS7 version. Cathedral port version would follow a couple months after that.
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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He stated how Ford did their homework on the manifold for the 5.0 coyote and how well this design worked. We discussed at length what this will accomplish for the LS platform. It's going to be worth the wait.
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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Thanks Drain89 for your input.
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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I wonder how well it will work with 15psi of boost feeding it into a 416ls3.
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 06:15 PM
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Me too...
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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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I'm certainly not opposed to dynoing this MSD, then switching to the Vararam with the same pulley setup to see what it does.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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I'm not opposed to you doing this either. :-p

I REALLLLYYYYYYYY hope the cathedral version fits under my hood. I'll keep my dookie LS2 intake until then. If it doesn't fit, FAST for me. :-(
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Was going to get the FAST 102 for my LS2 then I heard about the MSD intake. Called to order it last Feb but it wasn't out yet. Then I saw the Vararam intake, decided to wait to see results. This spring I'm redoing the top end(sticking with cathedral port heads for now), hopefully they have it ready when I tear it down. I ported the LS2 intake but know I'm leaving a bunch of power on the table. If it's not available in the spring I'll go with the MSD, FAST102 or LSXRT.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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If you have room for the truck manifold, I'd be buying it, unless something special turns up in the meantime
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
If you have room for the truck manifold, I'd be buying it, unless something special turns up in the meantime
It is a lot of room you need for this intake...no way to fit it under any OEM hood...
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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The truck intake will not fit in an F-body, or corvette, without doing major cutting.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
If you have room for the truck manifold, I'd be buying it, unless something special turns up in the meantime
I've heard the LSXRT is great if it will fit. I have a Gravana Woodward hood so I have a little more clearance than stock, but I'd either need to find one to test fit or get measurements of the height difference and check it. I don't want to cut up a hood that can't be easily replaced. I've heard some good things about the MSD, but no first hand results for them with cathedral port heads. Wide powerband with good throttle response is my goal as this is a street car. It's a 6 speed car(~3500lbs) that is used for everything from long trips to drag racing to blasting down back roads. Good plenum volume and long runners should work perfect for what I want. It would also leave room for more displacement down the road.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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Ben posted a few times, but always worth a re-post. Good intake test here.

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1507-...ifolds-tested/

And not so much a test, but at least gives an idea of size/visuals. The truck intake does look great, it almost looks perfect, if it wasnt so big lol.

http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/en...ake-manifolds/
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Ben posted a few times, but always worth a re-post. Good intake test here.

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1507-...ifolds-tested/

And not so much a test, but at least gives an idea of size/visuals. The truck intake does look great, it almost looks perfect, if it wasnt so big lol.

http://www.lsxtv.com/tech-stories/en...ake-manifolds/
Read both articles a couple times, lol. The one got me to give up on the Holley mid ram intake idea, looked good until the numbers came out. It's also what had me considering a ported TBSS manifold.
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