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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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I wonder...how would you run a MAF with this intake, or would you need to go to a SD tune even when NA?
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Old Nov 16, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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SD would be easiest. Or you run from the two TBs to a single intake tube and a single MAF. It is also possible to run twin MAFs in an aftermarket EFI or using a translator.
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Originally Posted by 1970camaroRS
SD would be easiest. Or you run from the two TBs to a single intake tube and a single MAF.......
If you do that, you would still effectively be running a 'single' intake from an airflow capacity stand-point.

Kinda like running a Y-pipe exhaust to a single muffler that had dual outlets/tailpipes. That ain't really a dual exhaust.....right?


To me, the only solution that makes sense is dual independent air-filters to dual independent tubes/baffles to dual independent MAFs into the dual independent TBs.

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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
If you do that, you would still effectively be running a 'single' intake from an airflow capacity stand-point.

Kinda like running a Y-pipe exhaust to a single muffler that had dual outlets/tailpipes. That ain't really a dual exhaust.....right?


To me, the only solution that makes sense is dual independent air-filters to dual independent tubes/baffles to dual independent MAFs into the dual independent TBs.

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No, it's not. As long as you feed the CFM asked it doesn't matter if it's one, two, three or eighty pipes. Different story once you get to and past the throttle blades and into the plenum/plenums.
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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 04:08 PM
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I would probably go to a SD tune, I wouldn't want to go with 2 MAFs. Pretty excited to see some test results on this. I really want for it to be a good piece that makes good power.
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Originally Posted by 1970camaroRS
No, it's not. As long as you feed the CFM asked it doesn't matter if it's one, two, three or eighty pipes. Different story once you get to and past the throttle blades and into the plenum/plenums.
If you have one inlet the size of the stock inlet.....and it feeds into dual TBs.....effectively, you haven't improved airflow (CFMs).

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
If you have one inlet the size of the stock inlet.....and it feeds into dual TBs.....effectively, you haven't improved airflow (CFMs).

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Who's talking about a stock sized inlet?
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Who's talking NA??? I want to shove 16-18psi of air into this manifold and see how it reacts.
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 06:56 AM
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Who's talking NA??? I want to shove 16-18psi of air into this manifold and see how it reacts.
Probably wont fit under there anyway....quit being power greedy, lol

...and there's nothing wrong with NA, thank you very much. Just not enough TB's on this set up
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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I'd LOVE a Kinsler or Jenvey setup on my car but I'll never be able to afford one most likely so I have to wait for Vararam or Edelbrock.
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Originally Posted by LPE 403
Probably wont fit under there anyway....quit being power greedy, lol

...and there's nothing wrong with NA, thank you very much. Just not enough TB's on this set up
I think it might fit. I was looking at my motor, and how much above the top of the valve cover I have before it reaches the cowl, and think there might be room.

So I'm saying there's a chance.

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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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I bet some nelson mirrored turbos could be made to look fantastic with this intake. With a custom dual inlet/dual outlet, front mount intercooler the pressure/boost would be equal to both throttle bodies, too.
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Originally Posted by 1970camaroRS
Who's talking about a stock sized inlet?
If you're talking about a single inlet source to feed dual TBs....you should be.

If you use a OEM MAF.....that's the size of the inlet, and only 'X' CFMs of air will flow through that point. It doesn't matter how many tubes you split off after that point to feed 'X' numbers of throttle bodies. That single MAF in that single inlet will determine airflow into the plenum.

Unless you dual the inlets to feed the TB's individually, you're not increasing flow into the plenum.

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I wanna run 2 air tubes being fed from the OEM front brake duct location.....
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
If you're talking about a single inlet source to feed dual TBs....you should be.

If you use a OEM MAF.....that's the size of the inlet, and only 'X' CFMs of air will flow through that point. It doesn't matter how many tubes you split off after that point to feed 'X' numbers of throttle bodies. That single MAF in that single inlet will determine airflow into the plenum.

Unless you dual the inlets to feed the TB's individually, you're not increasing flow into the plenum.

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I run an OEM MAF and I can run whatever sized tube I want...
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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LS7 style MAF problem solved.

It better pull to well above 7000rpm!
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LS7 style MAF problem solved.

It better pull to well above 7000rpm!
Exactly. You could run a 4" tube to a pair of 3.5" tubes with the MAF in the single 4" tube and you wouldn't cause any restriction for very large amounts of horsepower.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:56 PM
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Or better yet, delete the MAF all together.

I haven't used a MAF on a LS engine in over 10 years
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I daily drive mine in an area where the temp and air density changes quickly. I tried a SD tune for a long time and it left a lot to be desired.
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Originally Posted by 1970camaroRS
I daily drive mine in an area where the temp and air density changes quickly. I tried a SD tune for a long time and it left a lot to be desired.
I've been speed density, 2-bar and 3-bar for 3+ years now, and our temps can swing more than 30-40 degrees some days, and I have zero issues with my car or the tune.... and I tuned it myself. Car idles at 675, doesn't stall or buck or hunt for idle. Gas mileage is, well, decent if I stay out of boost. I'm not sure who tuned your car, but if you had issues, then that person didn't do a good job.
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