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Old 01-21-2018 | 12:45 PM
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i have run across 2 different Holley Sniper intakes for 102 throttle bodies at some pretty good discounts. I am building a mostly stock 5.3 but with a LS3 Cam, springs, and lifters. A 102 throttle body seems like overkill and besides, I would like to stay drive by wire. Is it possible to get adapters to put my stock throttle body on this intake? I can pick one up for about what I am seeing LS1 manifolds for and less than LS6 manifolds.
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I'm not sure about the sniper intake but I run my stock ls2 90 mm throttle body on my fast 102.
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Originally Posted by onebadbowtie86
I'm not sure about the sniper intake but I run my stock ls2 90 mm throttle body on my fast 102.
Thank you for the reply. Will have to see if I can find an adapter for my TB as I am sure that it is smaller.
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The bolt patter for 90mm and 102mm TBs should be the same......so a 90mm TB should be able to bolt onto a 102mm intake with no problem.

Only thing is that you will see zero benefit of the 102mm intake with a 90mm TB.

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
The bolt patter for 90mm and 102mm TBs should be the same......so a 90mm TB should be able to bolt onto a 102mm intake with no problem.

Only thing is that you will see zero benefit of the 102mm intake with a 90mm TB.

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manifold design isn't all about the opening. runner length, cross section, plenum volume all play a major role. if it's oversized for his app, it's because of those things, not the size of the throttle body.
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All those Holley intakes are identical, just with a different flange up front, so there is no problem with what he proposes.
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What he is doing should work fine.

Only thing I advice against is adapting a 78mm intake to a 90mm tb. I did this on a LS swap for a customer. The larger tb opening made so much turbulence, that it had a crazy loud whistle to it. Sounded like a procharger at idle lol.
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Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts
manifold design isn't all about the opening. runner length, cross section, plenum volume all play a major role. if it's oversized for his app, it's because of those things, not the size of the throttle body.
Nothing you've stated is applicable to this discussion..........

But thanks all the same.

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Originally Posted by brandon6.0
What he is doing should work fine.

Only thing I advice against is adapting a 78mm intake to a 90mm tb. I did this on a LS swap for a customer. The larger tb opening made so much turbulence, that it had a crazy loud whistle to it. Sounded like a procharger at idle lol.
Thats' interesting. I had always suspected opening up the LS6 intake to a 90mm throat would benefit it greatly
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It would benefit it. But my customer ordered a 90mm tb and had a 78mm truck intake. So thin we used an adapter for it to bolt up. So basicly u have a 90mm opening reduced to a 78mm hole. To much air turbulance.
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Oh i was thinking along the lines of epoxying a 90mm throat onto a LS6 plenum. What the LS2 intake should have been.
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
The bolt patter for 90mm and 102mm TBs should be the same......so a 90mm TB should be able to bolt onto a 102mm intake with no problem.

Only thing is that you will see zero benefit of the 102mm intake with a 90mm TB.

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Really? There was a pretty big differnce on my ls2 going from the stock intake to the fast 102 while keeping the stock 90 mm throttle body. I didnt dyno my results but plenty on the vette forums have and 20hp+ gains are pretty typical.
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Originally Posted by onebadbowtie86
Really? There was a pretty big differnce on my ls2 going from the stock intake to the fast 102 while keeping the stock 90 mm throttle body. I didnt dyno my results but plenty on the vette forums have and 20hp+ gains are pretty typical.
You would've had the same performance increase if you had gone with a 90mm FAST.

Why?

Because the benefit you got was not because you went a 102mm FAST intake, it was because you went from an OEM LS2 intake to a FAST intake.

One day, when you swap in a 102mm TB.....you may see even more improvement if your setup has the ability to use the additional airflow.

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
You would've had the same performance increase if you had gone with a 90mm FAST.

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I disagree, as stated the FAST 102 Intake has improved plenum &
Runners compared to the FAST 92. A FAST 102 with a 90 or 92
MM TB will out perform a FAST 92, 90/92 TB combo on even
a modest HC combo (especially with
A velocity ring), and be easier to tune VS 102 TB. 90 MM TB
is not a significant limiter (6-8 HP) until ~ 650 HP @ Flywheel.
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
I disagree, as stated the FAST 102 Intake has improved plenum & Runners compared to the FAST 92. A FAST 102 with a 90 or 92 MM TB will out perform a FAST 92, 90/92 TB combo on even a modest HC combo (especially with A velocity ring), and be easier to tune VS 102 TB. 90 MM TB is not a significant limiter (6-8 HP) until ~ 650 HP @ Flywheel.
Well then I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Well then I stand corrected.

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Good job, sport.



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