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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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Could we get stock LS7 with stock manifold vs stock LS7 with wilson manifold. that would tell the story.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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E/T 4.0 LS7 heads. F-R-E hydraulic cam and T/B. Wilson billet LS7 intake manifold... @7200 RPM. 100 octane gas. I could probably run it on 91 octane gas but I didn't for this test.
What did the curve look like below ~4K? I know that wasn't the intent of this engine, but I am just wondering...
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
What did the curve look like below ~4K? I know that wasn't the intent of this engine, but I am just wondering...

Both intakes performed the same below 3500... But after that, the billet intake picked up torque and HP. I have both graphs and I'm working on a way to post it.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtiejoni
Could we get stock LS7 with stock manifold vs stock LS7 with wilson manifold. that would tell the story.

Sorry... I don't work with production LS7 engines. But I'm sure someone will do that test very soon.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtiejoni
Could we get stock LS7 with stock manifold vs stock LS7 with wilson manifold. that would tell the story.
I'm assuming the Wilson billet intake has somewhat shorter effective runner length, with more runner volume - the same strategy used in the Wilson-designed LSX intake - and if so this manifold will aid big cams more than a stock cam.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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i'm getting ready to build a 402 for my SS. i'm just going to buy a pre-assembled shortblock like the LS2 based ones from Texas Speed. i'll bolt on some AFR225s with a healthy cam. i'm still going to drive the car a lot, but i want it to also perform as best it can for what it is.

would that motor benefit greatly from one of these intakes, or would i be better off with a fast, based on your experience? Also, do they handle boost well? i know billet is strong, but the intake is only as strong as its weakest weld. Are they welded by hand or by machine? i don't know that i'll even run a boosted setup, but it it possible, so i'm just curious at this point. thanks
I was thumbing through the thread and noticed your post. Also looked at your profile, you are a welder and ask a question about them being welded by hand or machine? Look at the bead across the front of the plenum. Whether that is by hand or machine, I would have to assume by hand, that weld quality is more than enough to hold the vaccum or even boost of any of the LSX setups. I have built some CMA low volume pressure vessels with flat walls and they hold 100 psi easy with a 1/4" fillet.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Any new news on the dyno test.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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They are all hand welded, I have one forsale if anyone is interested.
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They are all hand welded, I have one forsale if anyone is interested.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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So has anybody else tested this intake on an LS7 head motor? Are the lack of results posted due to price, no availability of parts to test, or just unwillingness to post disappointing results?
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LSmonster
I just tested a billet LS7 intake on a 402" engine and it gained 17 HP over a stock LS7 intake manifold... It gained 10 lbs of torque too. My T/B added another 3 HP and 3 ft/lbs of torque for a total of 620 HP on a Super Flow 901 engine dyno. Both intakes performed the same below 3500... But after that, the billet intake picked up torque and HP.
Just waiting for Wilson to get us more of them. Stock intake takes a dive at 64-6500 this one keeps going we saw 7300 and was still climbing. It is a definate advantage for a motor spinning over 6500rpm

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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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We have run this intake finally, and the results are +15hp at the tire at peak. The factory intake made 505.9@7100rpm and the Wilson made 520.6@7000rpm. The engine carry's rpm well to 7500 and should be a blast to drive on a road course. The intakes stay equal below 3800, then the wilson starts to gain slowly to the 15hp peak gain. This engine is a 427 with ETP heads set up for street/track day type use with a solid roller cam.


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Old May 23, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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nice #'s! this intake is a little extreme for my needs right now, but if i go all out i might spring for one...
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Nice gains, but it was like I thought. A huge improvement on cathedral port stuff and not quite so much on ls7 stuff. I am sure the hotter the combo beneath it though, the better the gains.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Thank you Kurt!!

15 hp is nice but with the price of wilson manifold ? Not mayby good idea on stock engine??
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Deffinatly not for a stock motor. The more power the more gains you will see.

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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
Deffinatly not for a stock motor. The more power the more gains you will see.

Nate
Hi Nate,

I'm talking with Allan Futral right now about a cam for my set-up. He asked me if I knew the runner length of this Wilson intake. I'm pretty certain I'll be going with it and ordering it tomorrow or next week through my builder.

Can you PM me with details of the intake.

Thanks.


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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 427
We have run this intake finally, and the results are +15hp at the tire at peak. The factory intake made 505.9@7100rpm and the Wilson made 520.6@7000rpm. The engine carry's rpm well to 7500 and should be a blast to drive on a road course. The intakes stay equal below 3800, then the wilson starts to gain slowly to the 15hp peak gain. This engine is a 427 with ETP heads set up for street/track day type use with a solid roller cam.


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Interesting... Looks like the gains were these same as my 402" engine...

I'll be testing one on a 443" engine in two or three weeks, and I'll post the results. And I'm testing the LS1 style tomorrow night. I'll let you guys know how that turns out.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Subscribing.. I'm interested in what it will do on a 402, AFR225, big cam car..
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS
Subscribing.. I'm interested in what it will do on a 402, AFR225, big cam car..
More than likely, the gains would be much better than this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see more like 35-40 or more. The higher you spin it the better the gains should be.
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