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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I have an LS2 ( all mods in sig) Dynoed at 535 RWHP. After about 2 weeks or so I knowticed some power loss but wasn't sure because I don't drive it much. Maybe 2 or 3 times a month. brought it back to the dyno to find that it was down to 410 RWHP. the computer said that #6 spark plug was skipping. also the tune was rich. do you think it could be that the spark plugs are fowled or something?

I will be doing a compression test next weekend.
What else could it be?

HELP!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Replace the spark plug and reduce the amount of flow at the fuel pump. Sometimes it takes a little while for an engine to get "Broke In," and the fuel pump could've just started for that very reason.
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Originally Posted by Scryer_360
Replace the spark plug and reduce the amount of flow at the fuel pump. Sometimes it takes a little while for an engine to get "Broke In," and the fuel pump could've just started for that very reason.

Do you realy think that one spark plug could cause the motor to loose 120 Hp?
What do you mean reduce the flow on the pump? it is dyno tuned to 11.5 AFR give or take approx .3
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Pull the plugs first, that will let you know a lot. That said 120 HP is a lot to lose, sounds like a cylinder or 2 isnt firing.

And maybe a boost leak too.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Is your car M6, it could be a slipping clutch under WOT conditions.
Any funny smell after you go WFO on the throttle?
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Pull the plugs first, that will let you know a lot. That said 120 HP is a lot to lose, sounds like a cylinder or 2 isnt firing.

And maybe a boost leak too.
The guy that dynoed it said that 3 and 6 ware skipping but 6 was real bad.
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Is your car M6, it could be a slipping clutch under WOT conditions.
Any funny smell after you go WFO on the throttle?
No it is a 99 SS camaro.
But you bring up a valid point about the clutch slipping. no smells but it has a kevlar clutch and may not smell if it slipps, not sure.
The clutch has about 2500 - 3000 k on it should be ok
we did put it under load on the dyno and it was consistant so I will have to think about this one more
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GTbrunO
Is your car M6
Originally Posted by STKN1STGEAR
No it is a 99 SS camaro.
lol M6 = Manual 6-Speed

not BMW M6
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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A BMW M6 with an LS2 would be sweet though
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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well obviously if 2 cylinders arnt firing correctly its not gonna produce as good HP correct? change plugs check wires and possiably coilpack
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sounds like 2 cylinders are out...
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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something is down-120 is a lot to loose with just plugs-
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 99DWPTA
well obviously if 2 cylinders arnt firing correctly its not gonna produce as good HP correct? change plugs check wires and possiably coilpack
What is the procedure to check the coil packs? do I just ohm them? if so, what should they ohm? also what should the wire ohm out to?
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SchultzLT1
lol M6 = Manual 6-Speed

not BMW M6
LOL!

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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check the plug wires and plugs. Ive had wires pop off the plug and believe it or not, one plug not firing will cause you to loose 100+ hp. think about it, you have 7 cylinders dragging one dead cylinder.
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Originally Posted by STKN1STGEAR
Hi,
I have an LS2 ( all mods in sig) Dynoed at 535 RWHP. After about 2 weeks or so I knowticed some power loss but wasn't sure because I don't drive it much. Maybe 2 or 3 times a month. brought it back to the dyno to find that it was down to 410 RWHP. the computer said that #6 spark plug was skipping. also the tune was rich. do you think it could be that the spark plugs are fowled or something?

I will be doing a compression test next weekend.
What else could it be?

HELP!!!!!!!
Al
Math lesson - 535hp/8 cyl = 67hp/cyl x 2= 134hp loss.
So if 2 plugs arent doing there job you can lose substantial power. Not only do you lose power production, but the other cyl now have more load to handle, so they become less efficient also.
Since they fire on occasion you are not getting the full loss, but it is a big loss no matter what.
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by TurboLark
Math lesson - 535hp/8 cyl = 67hp/cyl x 2= 134hp loss.
So if 2 plugs arent doing there job you can lose substantial power. Not only do you lose power production, but the other cyl now have more load to handle, so they become less efficient also.
Since they fire on occasion you are not getting the full loss, but it is a big loss no matter what.
Good luck!
Thanks for the info.
Yes I had figured this out, just didn't post it
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by STKN1STGEAR
Do you realy think that one spark plug could cause the motor to loose 120 Hp?
What do you mean reduce the flow on the pump? it is dyno tuned to 11.5 AFR give or take approx .3
I don't think so. 535rwhp/8 = 66.88 or 630bhp/8 = 78.75
Each cylinder is making approximately 78.75hp.
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Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
I don't think so. 535rwhp/8 = 66.88 or 630bhp/8 = 78.75
Each cylinder is making approximately 78.75hp.

Can you explain this to me? I don't get the jump from RWHP to BHP. Are you talking 630*.85 = 535.5? and are you talking 630 BHP at the crank now.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Forget all the stupid calculations, just have your plugs, wires, and coilpacks checked. To check the wires and packs all you really have to to to pull one wire off the plug when the engine is running and hold the end of the wire up to some metal on the motor, you should see the spark arc across the wire and jump to the engine. I would just go ahead and replace the plugs though.

If all the checks ok then do a compression test.
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