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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Hi Guys,

I thought that you might want to see some progress on the GT2 Corvette ALMS car. This is a new manifold is being developed by Kinsler and will be a different set up for the LS7 vs LS3. We will be running the LS3 due to homoligation issues with trying to get the LS7 approved in 6.0L form in a C6, not a C6Z.

The final product will have bolt up flanges on each runner to make an air tight seal to the plenum so the series can do a "Stall" test to make sure that all the air goes through the restrictors with no leaks.

I will keep you up to date on further developments as we get them.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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That's a sharp set up!
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Indeed. All of this work, unlimited head porting, unlimited cam, unlimited intake manifold....


It just all has to breathe through 2 31mm restrictors
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Beautiful! I'd think an IR intake for ls7 style would be awesome.

I bet it tops the harrop's price by far though. lol
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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That is bad ***! I like it.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jermzz
I bet it tops the harrop's price by far though.
Why would you bet that? Kinsler has offered some fairly reasonable cost guestimates for this manifold in the recent past, and Harrop is now on the wrong side of a wicked foreign exchange ratio....
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LILS
Why would you bet that? Kinsler has offered some fairly reasonable cost guestimates for this manifold in the recent past, and Harrop is now on the wrong side of a wicked foreign exchange ratio....
Two words; carbon fiber. It seems as soon as something has to be laid up in this stuff the price reaches for the far away universes!! But you are right about the exchange rates though, EVEN with the Harrop being metal.

Louis, that thing is SWEET!! I always loved the look of 'cross-ram' IR/ITB intakes, going waaayyy back to the C2 Duntov engineered factory race (code named Z06??) Vettes (and yes, I know those were Weber carbs on their intakes).
And yeah, inlet restrictors SUCK!!
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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I want it!
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Is that the Kinsler Setup that we were told about along time ago? James Kinsler (Argon Z) posted mock up pics, but never let us see it finished. It looks like on the second picture the furthest right runner has "SLER" cast in it. It is damn sweet none the less.

Oops I just saw the other thread that Argon Z started, so my question is answered.

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GrnDragon
Is that the Kinsler Setup that we were told about along time ago? James Kinsler (Argon Z) posted mock up pics, but never let us see it finished. It looks like on the second picture the furthest right runner has "SLER" cast in it. It is damn sweet none the less.

Oops I just saw the other thread that Argon Z started, so my question is answered.
I am wondering the same thing!
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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yes, this is the same intake James has been working on for a while. We will have the first handful for this program, so its highly unlikely that pics will be shown once it leaves kinsler.

As for price, that is yet to be determined, however what will be availible to the public will not be the same as our requirements differ from a street based envelope. Upwards of 10-15k with the carbon runners, carbon enclosure, restrictors and remaining airbox.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Yea, kinsler posted a $10k+ price tag in the other thread a while back. I imagine it's even more with all the carbon fiber.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Actually he kind of took offense to our assumption of $10k+ for the intake...

"Our manifold is NOT $10,000. It is about half of that.

Our cross ram manifold has two injector locations. Both aim in the correct direction. The high location is for better air to fuel mixture/atomization. This injector has a compound angle that follows the center line of the runner. The lower injector also follows the center of the runner (8 degrees off parallel.)

We are machining the manifold NOW and should be available in a few weeks.
Keep in mind the below pictures do not show fuel rails, paint, or linkage.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
James P. Kinsler
Kinsler.com"
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...er#post7837148
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Reread what I wrote:

As for price, that is yet to be determined, however what will be availible to the public will not be the same, as our requirements differ from a street based envelope. Upwards of 10-15k with the carbon runners, carbon enclosure, restrictors and remaining airbox

Our carbon air box, inlet restrictors, balance tube and other pieces add up. The engine for ths program is priced at 71k. You guys forget the cost of engineering, fabrication, and design work. Raw materials are not the only cost, and kinsler is not in this business to go bankrupt.

Expect a typical Cross ram IR/ITB to be priced about the same as the other stuff they offer. James will respond to this thread Im sure, but he is on his way back from PRI.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Def. a badass setup
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Thats one of the coolest things Ive ever seen!!! Good luck with the project!
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