Big Cubes = American Racing Headers!
12-30-2007, 07:58 PM
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I have a 1 7/8 stepped to 2 with the 3.5 merge collector from Nick and they are top notch! Build quality is great. My motor should be here next week, so we will get them installed asap and get some big cube numbers. They sure do look great hanging on my shop showroom wall though! 
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12-31-2007, 01:39 PM
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I probably don't want to know, but what's the difference in cost from buying a standard set of say 1 7/8 stepped to 2 inch with a 3/5 inch collector to having one made to fit a car, if I were to drop the car off? With the parts I'm looking at adding I am sure the old 1 3/4 qtp headers will fit I have now, but going to a bigger size, I am sure will get me in the realm of something custom made.
fwiw 402, 13.5 to 1 compression and 100 to 150 hp of nitrous, I am sure that going bigger will help, car makes 480rw with a nitrous tune thru a 5400 converter and a th400 no lockup. I think n/a it may benefit, I'm sure on the jug it will certainly help. I'm on the fence about what to do with the whole situation, I know I want to go bigger with the headers and I am sure it will help, it's just a matter of how much will it help and is it worth the $ vs. leaving what I have already on there. Car is race only if it matters.
fwiw 402, 13.5 to 1 compression and 100 to 150 hp of nitrous, I am sure that going bigger will help, car makes 480rw with a nitrous tune thru a 5400 converter and a th400 no lockup. I think n/a it may benefit, I'm sure on the jug it will certainly help. I'm on the fence about what to do with the whole situation, I know I want to go bigger with the headers and I am sure it will help, it's just a matter of how much will it help and is it worth the $ vs. leaving what I have already on there. Car is race only if it matters.
In your particular case you'd be better off with straight 1-7/8" headers with 3-1/2" collectors and our custom Y-pipe. I think it would be smart if we spoke by phone. I'll get you all the details on what system will work best. You can reach me 631-608-1986. Thanks.
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12-31-2007, 01:44 PM
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I'm not gonna run a Y at all, I was planning on a couple strait extensions to a couple mufflers just quiet enough for e-town not to bitch. Ground clearance doesn't really concern me, as long as I can get the car on and off the trailer without bottoming it out, that's all I really need.
Sooner or later I'm gonna up the nitrous on this thing, when I get tired of running in the mid 9's with it. Not sure if that will impact what would work or not. I'm not planning on doing anythign right yet, btu I will give you a call when I am ready. Certainly doesn't sound like I want to have headers built on the car that's for sure LOL.
Sooner or later I'm gonna up the nitrous on this thing, when I get tired of running in the mid 9's with it. Not sure if that will impact what would work or not. I'm not planning on doing anythign right yet, btu I will give you a call when I am ready. Certainly doesn't sound like I want to have headers built on the car that's for sure LOL.
12-31-2007, 01:54 PM
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I'm not gonna run a Y at all, I was planning on a couple strait extensions to a couple mufflers just quiet enough for e-town not to bitch. Ground clearance doesn't really concern me, as long as I can get the car on and off the trailer without bottoming it out, that's all I really need.
Sooner or later I'm gonna up the nitrous on this thing, when I get tired of running in the mid 9's with it. Not sure if that will impact what would work or not. I'm not planning on doing anythign right yet, btu I will give you a call when I am ready. Certainly doesn't sound like I want to have headers built on the car that's for sure LOL.
Sooner or later I'm gonna up the nitrous on this thing, when I get tired of running in the mid 9's with it. Not sure if that will impact what would work or not. I'm not planning on doing anythign right yet, btu I will give you a call when I am ready. Certainly doesn't sound like I want to have headers built on the car that's for sure LOL.
12-31-2007, 02:10 PM
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JL, There's no doubt you're way down on power, especially on the bottle. Pricing for custom S/S headers built on the car is usually $2200 or more. Our S/S 1-7/8 X 2" headers with custom sized 3-1/2" collectors sells for $1125.00
In your particular case you'd be better off with straight 1-7/8" headers with 3-1/2" collectors and our custom Y-pipe. I think it would be smart if we spoke by phone. I'll get you all the details on what system will work best. You can reach me 631-608-1986. Thanks.
Nick
In your particular case you'd be better off with straight 1-7/8" headers with 3-1/2" collectors and our custom Y-pipe. I think it would be smart if we spoke by phone. I'll get you all the details on what system will work best. You can reach me 631-608-1986. Thanks.
Nick
01-02-2008, 02:39 PM
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Firehawk, Our Y-pipe starts off at 3-1/2" to match the collectors but then reduces to 3" before going into the 2 into 1 merge. The final outlet size can be 3", 3-1/2'' or 4". I can tell you that this Y-pipe set-up can handle extreme amounts of power. You can bypass the dual muffler set-up by running 1 single 3-1/2" or 4" muffler after the Y-pipe and then turn it down.
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01-02-2008, 03:46 PM
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Well folks the concensus with regards to clearance with a manual rack is (and this is coming from BMR directly) that should clear without an issue. Although I won't just simply sell something to someone with 100% confirming this, I'm pretty confident we're ok.
I'm told that BMR is releasing a new manual rack soon that will clear our headers by a mile.
Nick
I'm told that BMR is releasing a new manual rack soon that will clear our headers by a mile.
Nick
01-05-2008, 02:17 PM
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Firehawk, Our Y-pipe starts off at 3-1/2" to match the collectors but then reduces to 3" before going into the 2 into 1 merge. The final outlet size can be 3", 3-1/2'' or 4". I can tell you that this Y-pipe set-up can handle extreme amounts of power. You can bypass the dual muffler set-up by running 1 single 3-1/2" or 4" muffler after the Y-pipe and then turn it down.
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01-06-2008, 11:17 AM
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Only three out of twelve events have been won buy an N/A car. One or two by a twin turbo car and the rest by nitrous. Hope to see you there this season.
01-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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Firehawk, Unfortunately we don't make a full 3-1/2" Y-pipe. I'm sure we can custom build one in-house but it would require having the car at our facility.
For additional ground clearance our 3" Y-pipe has oval tubing on the driver's side. To do that with 3-1/2" tubing would be tricky but it is possible.
Nick
For additional ground clearance our 3" Y-pipe has oval tubing on the driver's side. To do that with 3-1/2" tubing would be tricky but it is possible.
Nick
01-08-2008, 09:33 AM
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I don't understand the point of having a 3 1/2" collector if the y-pipe is necked down to 3".
Why would it be so much harder to make, wouldn't you just use a 3 1/2" piece of oval tubing on the drivers side?
With the cars making as much power they do these days I think it is time some one makes a true 3.5" y-pipe, that's off the shelf, I know one thing, custom built = custom built prices and at that point it would be cheaper to do it myself.
So the question is, when can we expect AR to offer a true 3.5" y-pipe to the public at a set off the self price?
Why would it be so much harder to make, wouldn't you just use a 3 1/2" piece of oval tubing on the drivers side?
With the cars making as much power they do these days I think it is time some one makes a true 3.5" y-pipe, that's off the shelf, I know one thing, custom built = custom built prices and at that point it would be cheaper to do it myself.
So the question is, when can we expect AR to offer a true 3.5" y-pipe to the public at a set off the self price?
01-09-2008, 12:44 PM
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Ragen, When there's enough demand. It true these engines are getting increasingly more powerful by the day and we need to stay a step ahead, but the reality is most prefer to stick 2 mufflers on the end of their collectors when going to extremely high power levels. If you're producing big power (800rw or more) and you're doing it with a supercharger, our currently available Y-pipe configuration can more than handle it. On nitrous we've yet to see our Y-pipes limitations though I know without a doubt there's a point where you'll need something more. Try convincing a big cube nitrous customer to stick a Y-pipe on their car and I know the response already.
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At least we know you guys at AM are willing to make true 3.5" y's, out of curiosity how much more generally would a custom y pipe be if you did want a true dual 3.5"?