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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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please dont reply with any "efi is better...blah blah blah"

im just trying to be different and looking into running a distributor on a 408. i already have a slew of sbc and sbf parts laying around,distributors, msd digital 7, various msd coils etc.
im really just looking for some input on who is using one in a race application.
i was wondering how the cam gear holds up? anyone sheer those bolts yet?

also do i really need the msd trigger converter? can i just use the pickup in the distributor? (msd pro billet) im figuring the trigger converter will give me more accuracy but im not sure since i have heard there are problems associated with it. or should i just use msd crank trigger?

any info i can get would be great, im really looking to see how there running, whos running it and how much power their pushing with it.
mind you im building a 408 and im going to WHACK THE CRAP OUT OF IT on spray.....hopefully turbo in the future

again please dont try to convert me to EFI and i really have no intentions on using the msd 6010/6012 it does not have all the features i need to shoot this thing to the MOON
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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You should look into the cam aspect too.

Does anyone make a LSx cam that has the distributor drive provision?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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i believe the GM front cover comes with a drive gear/lobe for dist and a mechanical fuel pump.....i just dont exactly know how it bolts on to the cam gear
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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the whole kit comes complete,im led to believe,contact pace chevrolet and/or sdpc,
hope this helps
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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If you have an installed reluctor the MSD 6AL or 58x version is much easier and less involved. You can run your carb.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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This is from the GMPP catalog:
88958679 - LS Front Distributor Drive Cover
• Assembly is manufactured for applications where a
4-barrel carburetor and distributor are required
• Can be combined with GM’s Bowtie valve covers
P/N 25534398 and P/N 25534399 for a complete
traditional looking engine package.

Distributor and mechanical fuel pump not
included. Uses small-block Ford style distributor
and mechanical fuel pump. Requires use of
aftermarket dampener.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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I'm running a MSD billet distributor with the GMPP front cover on my 454 LSX and love it, if you have any questions or problems just ask.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cdub
I'm running a MSD billet distributor with the GMPP front cover on my 454 LSX and love it, if you have any questions or problems just ask.
I am converting mine over to a distributor. What balancer did you use?
Mike
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1cdub
I'm running a MSD billet distributor with the GMPP front cover on my 454 LSX and love it, if you have any questions or problems just ask.
please gimme all the details you can, if you have some pics that would be nice too. you can PM me if youd like to keep it on the DL.....
are you using the magnetic pickup in the distributor or the trigger converter?
what ignition are you running? about how much further out does the water pump stick out with those spacers?....does the GM package even come with the WP spacers?
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sorry I just now caught up to this...here is a quick pic that Dan took a few weeks back..



yes I'm using a SBC cranktrigger that I had to fab some mounts for use with the LSX.....also no WP spacers are included. You can get them from Wegner for about $30 if I remember right. Also I had to ditch my factory fans with this setup...they are a little too thick with the Afco radiator and the WP spacers. As far as ignition, I'm currently using an MSD digital 6 box. If you have any more q's just shout.

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 93ls7z
I am converting mine over to a distributor. What balancer did you use?
Mike
balancer is a keyed ATI...#916099
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Will all these parts work on my 07 LS3 6.2L ??

Also why not just use the ford style distibutor with the gmpp front cover ?
Wouldn`t that be easier ?
I`m just doing a mild biuld for street with a carb.
I`m going to use the L92 heads and with a mild hyd. roller cam.... will my stock pistons need to be fly cut ??
Also i read that i need to change the reluctor wheel ??? Why ???
Thanks for the info and part numbers.
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Originally Posted by 68lemans
Will all these parts work on my 07 LS3 6.2L ??

Also why not just use the ford style distibutor with the gmpp front cover ?
Wouldn`t that be easier ? Thats what it is.... only an MSD billet for use with a crank trigger
I`m just doing a mild biuld for street with a carb.
I`m going to use the L92 heads and with a mild hyd. roller cam.... will my stock pistons need to be fly cut ?? The intake valve is 2.16, you better clay it to be safe.Also i read that i need to change the reluctor wheel ??? Why ??? You don't even need a reluctor wheel at all...Thanks for the info and part numbers.
Good luck.
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I do have Motorcraft dist. at front. I like that MSD dist. more than mine. I would like to have that MSD. Can you give me MSD Part # Dist.?

Thanks for input.
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sorry I just now caught up to this...here is a quick pic that Dan took a few weeks back..



yes I'm using a SBC cranktrigger that I had to fab some mounts for use with the LSX.....also no WP spacers are included. You can get them from Wegner for about $30 if I remember right. Also I had to ditch my factory fans with this setup...they are a little too thick with the Afco radiator and the WP spacers. As far as ignition, I'm currently using an MSD digital 6 box. If you have any more q's just shout.
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I ll call wegner motorsports to find out what MSD part # since no ones could answer...
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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I ll call wegner motorsports to find out what MSD part # since no ones could answer...
Ask for Casey Wegner, he may know.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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The kit requires a steel or bronze gear. As the distributor in a ford als drives the oil pump that is where 99% of the load comes in.
You can use the distributor to trigger your MSD box but really why would you want to. The reluctor wheel is a lot more accurate than the distributor.

I am going to test it 3 ways on the dyno.

MSD Trigger
MSD Magnet Crank Trigger
MSD Distributor

The ideal setup IMHO is a MSD converter with a reluctor wheel then a MSD 7531 and a drop in race MSD ford distributor. Use the fiber optic sensor on #1 so you can tune each cylinder.

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This is MSD-8382. Dang, I should ask them about Steel or Gold gear and reluctor. They do have selling that dist. for ~$340

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The kit requires a steel or bronze gear. As the distributor in a ford als drives the oil pump that is where 99% of the load comes in.
You can use the distributor to trigger your MSD box but really why would you want to. The reluctor wheel is a lot more accurate than the distributor.



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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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let me know what result after you test on ..

Originally Posted by Robin L
The kit requires a steel or bronze gear. As the distributor in a ford als drives the oil pump that is where 99% of the load comes in.
You can use the distributor to trigger your MSD box but really why would you want to. The reluctor wheel is a lot more accurate than the distributor.

I am going to test it 3 ways on the dyno.

MSD Trigger
MSD Magnet Crank Trigger
MSD Distributor

The ideal setup IMHO is a MSD converter with a reluctor wheel then a MSD 7531 and a drop in race MSD ford distributor. Use the fiber optic sensor on #1 so you can tune each cylinder.

Robin
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I run the dit. and front GM drive its trouble free!! You have to fab. some parts like alt. brackets and crank pully. Lok at my thread in conversions&hybrids.
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