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Old 01-15-2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
I remember posting when you had your coolant leakage issue..........those bearings were already running on borrowed time back then.
Yup. The motor was running on borrow time since it was built. Wish I would have known that then.
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Originally Posted by Speed Density
What cylinder is that picture your asking about on? The main with the ding?
I believe it was the number 4 cylinder
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So who built this thing? Does it start with a C?
Old 01-16-2009, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
So who built this thing? Does it start with a C?
Yes, the original owner of the shop that starts with a C built it.
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Ya, that's what I thought. Back when I was just thinking about a 427 build I researched everything I could and had talked with him on the phone a couple times. Sure glad I didn't go with him!? I remember seeing somewhere he did yours.
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I guess in a way that is why you build your own stuff, that way there is no one to blame buy yourself when it goes boom.
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which shop done this?
Old 01-16-2009, 05:23 AM
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Yes please tell!
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atleast post the enginebuilder in your sig... its common practice
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If it was me, I would not use any of the bottom end parts. There was severe damage. Even if a big IF, the crank checks out, I would still not use it. Just think of the stress that the crank saw during the explosion. Personally, I would just have the heads checked and that's all that I would use if they are good.
Even with the lifters looking good you still don't know what kind of loads they saw and or metal floating thru the oil. I'm just giving you some real life experiences, and hate to see someone make some of the same mistakes I have made over the years.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Old 01-16-2009, 08:09 AM
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Once you decide what is next and who will build it, the new builder can decide the suitability of the questionable components. It is really not wise to decide what is good/bad/fixable without professional evaluation.
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Originally Posted by See5
Once you decide what is next and who will build it, the new builder can decide the suitability of the questionable components. It is really not wise to decide what is good/bad/fixable without professional evaluation.
IMO,
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Exactly. ANY parts that will be reused will be checked out by the professional and he will make the final decision. I'm just showing what components may still be good.
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Originally Posted by mebuildit
If it was me, I would not use any of the bottom end parts. There was severe damage. Even if a big IF, the crank checks out, I would still not use it. Just think of the stress that the crank saw during the explosion. Personally, I would just have the heads checked and that's all that I would use if they are good.
Even with the lifters looking good you still don't know what kind of loads they saw and or metal floating thru the oil. I'm just giving you some real life experiences, and hate to see someone make some of the same mistakes I have made over the years.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I see what you're saying about the crank, but like stated, i'm going to let a professional tell me whether the crank is still good or not.
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Seems odd a little PTV contact would cause the rod and pin to seize. You previously were saying Piston to head, which I assumed you meant piston to valve

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Originally Posted by 1.8t
Seems odd a little PTV contact would cause the rod and pin to seize. You previously were saying Piston to head, which I assumed you meant piston to rod.
Maybe I was confusing. I was having piston to head contact, after it went, the valves kissed the piston when it seized in the bore and they bent. I did not mean piston to rod? .
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Bah, I just edited my post....I mistyped what I was trying to say. How bad was the PTV contact when you pulled the heads the first time? Could you not tell by the way the car was running(assuming the valves were bent) that there was an issue?
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So you were having piston to head contact when the motor was new?
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Originally Posted by mikey
So you were having piston to head contact when the motor was new?
Yes.

I will say that I did supply the new parts, and then the motor was built by an engine builder. This person has since passed away.
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Originally Posted by 1.8t
Bah, I just edited my post....I mistyped what I was trying to say. How bad was the PTV contact when you pulled the heads the first time? Could you not tell by the way the car was running(assuming the valves were bent) that there was an issue?
You're still getting it wrong man lol. The motor was built improperly and was having piston to HEAD contact. When the motor went, the valves kissed the seized piston.
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Originally Posted by Haans249
You're still getting it wrong man lol. The motor was built improperly and was having piston to HEAD contact. When the motor went, the valves kissed the seized piston.
Ahhhhhhhh, well **** man......that blows(literally). Hope you are able to get her fixed up and running the way she should.


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