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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 01:29 AM
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i have 2000 ss camaro im thinking about stroking it out into a 427 how do you think a big single(maybe a 101) would hold up??
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Which block are u thinking about using? From what I've heard and read is that the LS3 427 is strickly for N/A and can't be spun that hard. I would go with an LS7 or even an LSX depending on how much boost you are wanting to run. The LS7 and LSX are pretty much the same price from TSP, the LSX being for high boost.
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i have 2000 ss camaro im thinking about stroking it out into a 427 how do you think a big single(maybe a 101) would hold up??
Come on man. You need to give us ALOT more info than that. If you want a serious answer, you are going to need to give us serious questions for us to think you are serious. Newbie, 1 post, and you ask if a 101 MM turbo would work fine on a 427. How about you start with:

What are wanting to do? How much power do you want to make? Heads? Cam? What is your budget (which I hope since you are wanting to build a 427 w a 101 your budget is pretty much open) What tranny do you plan on using? What rear end? Suspension?
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bigs00ss
i have 2000 ss camaro im thinking about stroking it out into a 427 how do you think a big single(maybe a 101) would hold up??
I got a motor for you. save your self a ton of money and time
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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I got a motor for you. save your self a ton of money and time


Yeah he does! Killer motor that will cost you about 1/2 of what it would if you built it from scratch. He see's teh sticker price on your motor Major, and how he reacts will give us good clue on how serioous he is! Man I wish I had that kind of money to throw at your motor! My wife would go bonkers She's already T'd off about my lowly 414" (she doesn't know about my other build yet)

Good luck with your sale..hope you get that bad boy moved. Sorry you had tranny issues at the shootout, bummer!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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thanks guys i wasnt sure about if the 427 would hold the boost or not but now i know but i was thinkin about goin with the lsx block, water to air intercooler, with 6 bolt heads but not sure how much they go for and a powerglide or a 400, not sure which cam i should go with, jus getting some good opinions on everything, when im done i wanna make around 1500 or so, and full suspension u know hope to have a really sick street car
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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STREET CAR?????? 1500hp?????? Hope you got money to make it reliable! Good luck with your build. A 1500 hp street car would be a beast!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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yea ill probably run it on just the motor for a few mounths and then save up some more and do the turbo setup hopefully i should see good results, i know its gonna b a serious project and a piggy bank but y not shoot for the stars, i just finished high school but been around high horsepower all my life and been saving for this project a very long time
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigs00ss
yea ill probably just run the motor for a few mounths then do the turbo setup hopefully i should see good results, i know its gonna b a serious project and a piggy bank but y not shoot for the stars, i just finished high school last year but i been around high horsepower all my life and been saving for this project a very long time


Some advice: Go to school, get a well paying job, save some more money, then try again. If you want a start, get Major's motor, like said before it will save you a TON of money, and its inline with what you need to make the kind of power you're talking about. Otherwise, shoot for something a little closer to this atmosphere.

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well right now im about to finish fire fighter academy but if i wanted to make around 700 or 800 hp what do ya think would be the best way to go on this, i would still like to turbo it...should i go with a truck manifold??? and some advices on the motor(maybe just a 383) i know some people that did it and was pretty successful with it
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Originally Posted by CorvetteMajor
I got a motor for you. save your self a ton of money and time
Can't go wrong with what this guy(paul m.) is telling you.^^^ His $hit flys!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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how much is major selling his motor for
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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how much is major selling his motor for
I would just pm him and find out.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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preciate dude ill do that but wat do you think about the 383 and the truck manifold??? or some other advice
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preciate dude ill do that but wat do you think about the 383 and the truck manifold??? or some other advice
I don't do alot of FI stuff, more of a N/A guy, but the 37X combos are hard to beat to. The 42X stuff works awesome to. I havent been real impressed with to many 383 FI or N/A combos personally. Just do your reseach and talk to the right people. Paul major would be one of them, along with countless others.
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alright sweet thanks alot guys
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Alls I know is your looking at a build WELL over 50k..and it seems like your trying to do it on a few thousand dollar budget....
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I've got your 427 LSX short-block for $6610
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Originally Posted by bigs00ss
yea ill probably run it on just the motor for a few mounths and then save up some more and do the turbo setup hopefully i should see good results, i know its gonna b a serious project and a piggy bank but y not shoot for the stars, i just finished high school but been around high horsepower all my life and been saving for this project a very long time
You should probably do what most guys do... start smaller and build up. We all have the big dreams, but once things start getting real (i.e. estimating cost), you've got to lower the expectations.

What most have done is to start with heads/cam, headers & bolt-ons. $3,000 for parts, another $400 or so for a tune. ~$1,000 for labor unless you do it yourself. You'll have a 500 hp car that will be somewhat reliable if you don't flog it constantly. It will be plenty fun, and you can get by with the stock fuel pump, injectors, clutch (for a while), and rear end (if you're nice to it...!).

Fyi... a 427 turbo will require a different motor completely from the LS1. Can't bore/stroke an LS1 to 427 ci. Once you get the long block (~$10k) plus matching heads & intake, then injectors, fuel pump, clutch/flywheel, tranny and rear end that can handle it, and the headers, MAF, lid, etc. to support it, you're looking at another $10k. Then you've got the turbo and all the plumbing, dunno what that runs ($$$)... this is a bare minimum $30k project if you already have the car. And it will be a nightmare to keep from breaking stuff. 427 turbo, wow, on second thought my price quotes were probably too low... components would have to be ultra heavy duty (and expensive) just to stay together.

If you want to go fast cheap, get an iron block 408 and spray it. You'll still need a new rear end, clutch/flywheel, fuel system, etc., but the long block will be cheaper and nitrous is WAY cheaper than going turbo.
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Originally Posted by bigs00ss
how much is major selling his motor for

I won't speak for Major, but I can give you an idea if you wanted to make 1500HP with 4xx+ cubes and a 101 MM turbo, plan on a price tag of about:

$50K if you can do some of the leg work yourself.

And since you just finished High School, is it safe to assume that you don't have teh type of money around, and that is why the guys are actually being nice to you in saying, "just start out a little smaller"
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