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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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ihey used a fast intake at the end of the article,gm hi-tech did a piece on a 408 motor same cam,made around 600hp,with a ls3 intake.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by r572cobra
02 ws6 , a ls3 427,11.5 comp.was looking at a cam 251/267.624 lift,114 sep,
I like that cam for your set up but you gotta go with a FAST, for my 416 I'll be running 12.0 and with this cam...
http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...csid=1415&sb=0
Or this one..
http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...csid=1416&sb=0
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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The second cam,474-11,is the one I'm looking at.
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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This is a great thread. Not one sided at all, but rather opinions and cams from every end of the spectrum. The bad news is I spec'd and ordered a cam for my setup before stumbling across this thread, the good news is I don't think I would change anything.
here are my specs:
224/236 duration at .050
.581/.578 lift with 1.7 rockers
XER/XE Hi-lift Lobes
113 lsa/109 icl

The engine in question:
364ci LQ9, 10.5:1 comp, untouched l92(821) heads with comp 918's, l92 truck intake.
The vehicle in question:
2006 silverado ecsb, 4l65, 4.10 gear, 2800 PI stall, daily driven.

I have seen people suggest on a few threads to delay the intake VE's as a means of controlling reversion. Get a bit of "suck" before the valve opens. After reading this thread, I kinda see that as a bunch of bull. There are alot of guys on this thread who have got great numbers with plenty of advance.

This brings me to my next question: Where would you install the icl of this cam? I'm kinda leaning towards "straight up" at +4. (109)

Opinions would greatly appreciated.

Ps. Please don't try to sway me on the cam specs, as I already have the cam. I realize the lift is a bit soft, this is because I want my valvesprings to last awhile. I realize the split is a bit much. I am hoping to eventually get the $$$$ together for a TVS2300.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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^^^I pretty sure that cam will do well....A bigger stall might compliment it better though...I would install the cam "straight-up"at +4 no need to advance or retard it at all....I also don't think the split is a bit much either...For instance mine is a 227/239 .614/.624 115+3 and it does just fine....(stock LS3 heads)
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Yeah, the reason I went with this stall is for the blower down the road. Guys on here say anything over 2800 can be pretty bad for traction when using the Maggie. Brings me to my next question. Would you change the orientation for FI? I cant find any info on this.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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I've run 110, 111, 112. The 111 was the best in the 403.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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I've run 110, 111, 112. The 111 was the best in the 403
WKMCD, were these centerlines with different cam profiles, or the same profile?
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Old May 5, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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So what cam is suggested for an LS2 from a Trailblazer SS, but ls3 heads & intake, Trailblazer throttle body, 1.75" full length headers, Trailblazer PCM (E76?), would like a little lope at idle, but don't want to deal with it driving. Tranny will be a T56 Magnum, 3.42:1 rear, in an 86 Monte SS.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by samckitt
So what cam is suggested for an LS2 from a Trailblazer SS, but ls3 heads & intake, Trailblazer throttle body, 1.75" full length headers, Trailblazer PCM (E76?), would like a little lope at idle, but don't want to deal with it driving. Tranny will be a T56 Magnum, 3.42:1 rear, in an 86 Monte SS.
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Look at cams in this thread suggested for LQ9 engines because they have flat pistons just like the LS2.

Even better, get a custom cam from Patrick G spec'd to your setup to get THE BEST results.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dirty_old_chevy
This is a great thread. Not one sided at all, but rather opinions and cams from every end of the spectrum. The bad news is I spec'd and ordered a cam for my setup before stumbling across this thread, the good news is I don't think I would change anything.
here are my specs:
224/236 duration at .050
.581/.578 lift with 1.7 rockers
XER/XE Hi-lift Lobes
113 lsa/109 icl

The engine in question:
364ci LQ9, 10.5:1 comp, untouched l92(821) heads with comp 918's, l92 truck intake.
The vehicle in question:
2006 silverado ecsb, 4l65, 4.10 gear, 2800 PI stall, daily driven.

I have seen people suggest on a few threads to delay the intake VE's as a means of controlling reversion. Get a bit of "suck" before the valve opens. After reading this thread, I kinda see that as a bunch of bull. There are alot of guys on this thread who have got great numbers with plenty of advance.

This brings me to my next question: Where would you install the icl of this cam? I'm kinda leaning towards "straight up" at +4. (109)

Opinions would greatly appreciated.

Ps. Please don't try to sway me on the cam specs, as I already have the cam. I realize the lift is a bit soft, this is because I want my valvesprings to last awhile. I realize the split is a bit much. I am hoping to eventually get the $$$$ together for a TVS2300.
Your cam specs are great IMO. Surprisingly, those specs are very close to Livernois Stage 1B cam except for your tighter LSA

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...t.phtml?p=1568

They have some very nice cams and I'm thinking if getting one of those two cams for my LQ4 short block with L92 heads.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...t.phtml?p=1943

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...t.phtml?p=1939

And yes, I think the 4 degrees of advance will help improving your dynamic compression.

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Originally Posted by Samer
Look at cams in this thread suggested for LQ9 engines because they have flat pistons just like the LS2.

Even better, get a custom cam from Patrick G spec'd to your setup to get THE BEST results.
Isn't the LQ9 a truck 6.0L? The heads flow NOTHING like the LS3/L92 heads so a cam for that would be totally different than one for an LS3/L92.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by samckitt
Isn't the LQ9 a truck 6.0L? The heads flow NOTHING like the LS3/L92 heads so a cam for that would be totally different than one for an LS3/L92.
I said, look for cams suggested for LQ9 engines in this thread
So, they will have L92 or LS3 heads.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Gotcha, sorry, jumped to conclusions too soon.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Any vids of idle with these cams?
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Old May 25, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_WS6
I just ordered a new cam for my 408 LS3 headed/intake Rm'ed GT-88 from Virginan Speed. I am pulling the 230/240 114 .59x/.60x cam out and going back with a 236/232 .610/.610 116+6 cam and spring kit. I hope this cam wakes up my lazy turbo.

So this cam didn't work very good for your motor? I am looking at one similar for an LS2 with LS3 heads & intake. Duration is about 5 deg less on both, but lift is about .015" more lift.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by samckitt
So this cam didn't work very good for your motor? I am looking at one similar for an LS2 with LS3 heads & intake. Duration is about 5 deg less on both, but lift is about .015" more lift.
that cam would work decent N/A, but he is running a turbo, they like shorter exhaust duration to keep velocity high ahead of the turbine
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Old May 28, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Alright, a lot of this stuff is over my head. I need a cam for my stock lq4 shortblock with l92 heads and an ls3 intake thats going in my '80 Firebird. Right now I'll be running a turbo 400, with plans for a t56 in the future, funds permitting. I like the muscle car sound that that stage 2c that Samer linked. Would that be a good fit? I don't want to have to rev too high on my stock bottom end. And what kind of stall would I need?
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Old May 29, 2011 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nkatsinas
Alright, a lot of this stuff is over my head. I need a cam for my stock lq4 shortblock with l92 heads and an ls3 intake thats going in my '80 Firebird. Right now I'll be running a turbo 400, with plans for a t56 in the future, funds permitting. I like the muscle car sound that that stage 2c that Samer linked. Would that be a good fit? I don't want to have to rev too high on my stock bottom end. And what kind of stall would I need?
The LQ4 comes with -6.5 dish pistons with no valve reliefs
With the ~69cc LS3/L92 heads, your static compression ratio will be 9.7:1
I would recommend milling your heads to 65cc (0.020) and having a thinner head gasket 0.041 to pump your static compression to ~ 10.5:1 and this will also improve your dynamic compression but you will have to check PTV (piston to valve) clearance with your chosen cam.

I would recommend Livernois stage 1B cam over the 1C for your setup:
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...t.phtml?p=1568

The tighter LSA on the 1B (115 for 1B vs 117 for the 1C) will improve your dynamic compression. Moreover, I have noticed that people who achieved GREAT results with LS3/L92 heads are not using cams with high lift. .580 to .610 max is what's working better. I have also noticed that the best LSA for those heads is 114 and the closer you get to it, the better results you achieve (113 and 115 LSA's have achieved good results as well).
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Anyone have LS3 heads on a Trailblazer SS LS2 motor? Wondering at what point there is piston to valve interference.
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