Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

LS3 C/R increase

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:43 PM
  #1  
old motorhead's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 246
From: SE TEXAS
Default LS3 C/R increase

LS3 vette has LT headers, no cats, and free flowing exhaust, 226/234/.580/114+2LSA cam, ported tbody, ported intake manifold, cold air intake, 4.10's, 6speed man trans. About 465 rwhp. I'm thinking that a bump in compression ratio to about 11.5:1 would result in more power, more mpg, and a smoother running engine. A little milling on the heads plus a thinner head gasket should do the trick. 93 octane is readily available. Is it worth the trouble? Might port the heads a little while it's apart. Your thoughts appreciated.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:57 PM
  #2  
Avaric3's Avatar
TECH Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
From: Manalapan, NJ
Default

if youre gonna port the heads too, i dont see why you wouldnt do it
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 04:09 PM
  #3  
Jimbo'sZO6's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Default

Pretty good way to pick up 20+ rwhp! Go for it!

Jimbo
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:42 PM
  #4  
old motorhead's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 246
From: SE TEXAS
Default

Is 11.5:1 too little or too much with my setup? I'm trying to get it right the first time. I'm not completely sure it's even worth doing. Are ported LS3 heads a proven upgrade vs the stockers on a mild build? I'm sure a set of hogged out heads are good on an all out build, but I'm not so sure it's good for my motor.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:01 PM
  #5  
See5's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (53)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 874
Likes: 1
From: Hobart, WI
Default

A rule of thumb is one full point of compression is worth 4% hp.
The LS3 heads will like a skilled port job. The key is not to hog them out, particularly on the intake side.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:25 PM
  #6  
old motorhead's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 246
From: SE TEXAS
Default

Originally Posted by See5
A rule of thumb is one full point of compression is worth 4% hp.
The LS3 heads will like a skilled port job. The key is not to hog them out, particularly on the intake side.
I'm just wondering if it's worth the time, trouble, and cash to port the heads for a mild build. I think it would be if I was starting with an LS1 or LS2, but I'm beginning to think that the LS3 heads are pretty good to start with. I haven't seen much info on ported LS3 heads for the street that are a big improvement over stock.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:22 PM
  #7  
71CamaroLS1's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 251
Likes: 2
From: Portland OR
Default

Just as one data point: I've got a brand-new LS3, replacing my blown-up LS1, with the only internal mods being a Ragin-Racin Comp cams grind (227/235, .614/.621, 114 lsa), and .036 Cometic gaskets to raise compression to about 11.2. It made 459 RWHP, barely broken in, through a 12 bolt 4.11 rear end. With 92 octane fuel, I could only run about 24.5 degrees timing before I could hear occasional slight audible detonation. But the one run we did at 25.5 timing made no more power, so I'm guessing that 11.2 with 24.5 timing is about the optimum for our Oregon 92 octane.

From looking at a lot of different combos in the different forums, you just won't see a large improvement from porting LS3/L92 heads on a smaller displacement, moderately cammed combo. 10 HP, maybe 15 at best, and most of that near the top end of the RPM range where you won't notice it much. With a bigger cam and the forthcoming FAST intake, things might be different, of course.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:01 AM
  #8  
WKMCD's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,416
Likes: 2
From: Northern VA
Default

FWIW: The L92/LS3 heads love timing. I dropped the CR from 12:1 to 11.3:1 and was able to add 4-5 degrees of timing and picked up a bunch of HP. We had it up to 30 degrees but it left the dyno at 29 since it didn't make anymore power at 30. At 12:1 we couldn't run more than 25 without KR.

Just my $.02
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 19, 2009 | 02:29 PM
  #9  
jetblast's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: nj, edison
Default

am i reading this right?, you lost power with the higher compression right? did you use the same fuel and octane for both set-ups? and how much hp did you loose? and last, what made you decide to drop the compression in the first place? don't you want to run 103 or better at the track anyways?
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:11 PM
  #10  
old motorhead's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 246
From: SE TEXAS
Default

Wow...everything I've read would indicate that an increase in c/r would be a good thing when adding a bigger cam to an LS3. In my case, the bigger cam is already there. I'm trying to decide if adding a little extra squeeze would be worth doing. I'd like to hear that there was a head upgrade worth doing along with the added c/r. Pulling the heads is a pretty good job on a vette. Not sure I want to do it if the end result is just a few hp.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE