Cam Discussion New LSL Lobes from Comp
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Cam Discussion New LSL Lobes from Comp
Anybody have any real world numbers or results out there. I know the Lobe is quite new but it seems like everyone is secretive about them?? I have switched to a new LSL lobe in my all motor 441 and love it. The driveability is a ton better with gobs more torque on the bottom end. Lost about 10 rwhp up top from my last cam but it just seems alot funner to drive!. I did take it to the track but had alot of issues. The difference was i went from a 10.46 to a 10.50 in the 1/4 but my 60ft went from a 1.49 to a 1.42? I know, different track different day right. Anyone else have some real world results?
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I had a discussion about these lobes with a Comp rep at a Vengeance Racing cookout a couple years ago and the following is what I think I remember from that conversation.
As I understood it, they fall between the XER's and the LSK's lift wise. The LSL is softer off/on the seats than the LSK's and the XER's and is designed for stability while still offering considerable lifts.
As I understood it, they fall between the XER's and the LSK's lift wise. The LSL is softer off/on the seats than the LSK's and the XER's and is designed for stability while still offering considerable lifts.
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I had a discussion about these lobes with a Comp rep at a Vengeance Racing cookout a couple years ago and the following is what I think I remember from that conversation.
As I understood it, they fall between the XER's and the LSK's lift wise. The LSL is softer off/on the seats than the LSK's and the XER's and is designed for stability while still offering considerable lifts.
As I understood it, they fall between the XER's and the LSK's lift wise. The LSL is softer off/on the seats than the LSK's and the XER's and is designed for stability while still offering considerable lifts.
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Im about to run a PatG spec'd EPS lobe cam on my new 6.2L set up. No clue to how/what makes them different but they seem to work very well of late. I wonder how they compare to these LSL lobes as I was told similar traits about the EPS lobes that they are milder on the valvetrain and easier off the seat. Sounds pretty similar...
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This is a pretty accurate statement. These lobes have been available for around 2 years (in custom cam applications) so there's tons of real-world numbers on them. They're an excellent lobe with better stability than XE-R lobes while making more power.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
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What valve springs are people running with the lsl lobes i was thinking PAC 1518 singles
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I was told to use a Dual valve spring with the LSL lobes and that you can get away with PAC 1518 or Comp 26918 beehives when using the EPS custom endurance lobes, which is a slightly milder and less lift version of the LSL lobes.
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Most people will need to run duals.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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If i understand it correctly....the proper selection of the correct v-spring has more to do with than just the lift capabilities of a v-spring vs the actual lift of the cam. So it would be safe to say that the LSL lobes should come highly recommended to be used with a Dual Spring kit.
Comp Cams LSL Lobes
13014R 265 215 139 .355” .604”
13015R 269 219 143 .357” .607”
13016R 273 223 147 .359” .610”
13017R 277 227 151 .361” .614”
13018R 281 231 154 .363” .617”
13019R 285 235 158 .365” .621”
13020R 289 239 162 .367” .624”
13021R 293 243 166 .367” .624”
13022R 297 247 169 .367” .624”
13023R 301 251 173 .367” .624”
13024R 305 255 176 .367” .624”
13025R 309 259 180 .367” .624”
13026R 313 263 183 .367” .624”
13027R 317 267 187 .367” .624”
13028R 321 271 190 .367” .624”
13029R 325 275 193 .367” .624”
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I'm fitting a 239/247 lsr cam to my 6L anyone used the 26926 double springs. Comp say they designed for the lsr cam.
http://www.compcams.com/information/...yID=1741421126
My old set up 224/244 crane was running 918's and i'm thinking they won't be up to the task.
Are people changing retainers etc????
Cheers Paul
http://www.compcams.com/information/...yID=1741421126
My old set up 224/244 crane was running 918's and i'm thinking they won't be up to the task.
Are people changing retainers etc????
Cheers Paul
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Exactly. If you are running heavy solid stemmed valves, it's best to run a quality dual valve spring with LSL lobes. If you have lightweight valves and rockers, a good beehive like a Comp 26918 or PAC 1518 will control the LSL lobes.
Most people will need to run duals.
Most people will need to run duals.
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^ I had some comp 921's pulled after 10k miles of use on a Comp LSL lobed 231/246 .617/.623 115LSA cam and they all pressure checked right on spec. Never had a chance to repeat the procedure as the car was hit and total'ed, but the next interval I was going to pull them on was 15~17k miles. I would think 20k would be a nice safe interval, but I have no testing to support this other than a "hunch".
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^ I had some comp 921's pulled after 10k miles of use on a Comp LSL lobed 231/246 .617/.623 115LSA cam and they all pressure checked right on spec. Never had a chance to repeat the procedure as the car was hit and total'ed, but the next interval I was going to pull them on was 15~17k miles. I would think 20k would be a nice safe interval, but I have no testing to support this other than a "hunch".