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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by raymond mckinney
Whats the valve angle on these? Ls7 and Ls3 flow the same??
Rumor is... both heads have 12 degree valve angles, using LS7 rockers only.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Rumor is... both heads have 12 degree valve angles, using LS7 rockers only.
That is correct Mr. Tooley. Pricing will be available the 1st of Jan.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Rumor is... both heads have 12 degree valve angles, using LS7 rockers only.
Nice..
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 01:45 AM
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I stopped by and talked to one of the reps Tuesday but forgot to ask the ex. valve size?
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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I'm guessing here but the identical flow numbers and valve angle leads me to believe these are the same castings with intake runners setup to accept either LS3/L76 or LS7 intakes or their FAST conterparts.

Confirm?
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Exhaust is most likely 1.60 and the intake is 2.10
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Rumor is... both heads have 12 degree valve angles, using LS7 rockers only.
So I am assuming I won't be able to use my L92 sheetmetal intake on these heads?
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by formula17
Exhaust is most likely 1.60 and the intake is 2.10

Yea, I payed attention to the intake valve being 2.1 and that they were good for a 4" bore min. I hoped the ex. was 1.60 but forgot to ask. Guess I was just too wound up by the intake side to remember to ask about the exhaust.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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The exhaust valve is a 1.60".
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
So I am assuming I won't be able to use my L92 sheetmetal intake on these heads?
yes you can still use your intake. The heads are physically the same on the outside, Its just the valve angle thats different.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by formula17
yes you can still use your intake. The heads are physically the same on the outside, Its just the valve angle thats different.
Correct.

I will also have pricing for you guys here soon.
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Couple questions

1) Assuming these will be at least 2k for a pair. what makes them so much better than the bargan basement oem l92 heads. Will they make more power

2) How the ptv clearance. If i mill them down to 65cc or use a thiner head gasket to keep my stock ls2 compression, how much would that hurt ptv with these heads.

I assume a stock ls3 intake will bolt right up which is great because they are on ebay for 275 bucks and make the same as fast, so thats a real savings there which is plus. I just whish they they would have made a smaller 62 cc version. Guess only time will tell. will be watching this one closely.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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I was hoping for a low cost aluminum block with forged cylinder liners... oh well.


Will trick flow release them at a price point similar to the "CNC" LS heads or closer to the "As Cast" LS heads.

If they come in the price range of the "As Cast" ($1600 to 1900 depending on vendor and specials) and give Volume with Velocity (on the intake side) then it will be a hard head to beat.

to Redsap05
The Better valve angle should reduce PTV issues a little, but depending on the cam you use with the shaved head and a 2.1" valve you still may end up having to fly cut the pistons.

Sounds like the heads will be similar to the MAST's "Black Label" LS3 heads with a 12" valve angle. I just hope they come in at a lower price point!!!
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by redsap05
Couple questions

1) Assuming these will be at least 2k for a pair. what makes them so much better than the bargan basement oem l92 heads. Will they make more power

2) How the ptv clearance. If i mill them down to 65cc or use a thiner head gasket to keep my stock ls2 compression, how much would that hurt ptv with these heads.

I assume a stock ls3 intake will bolt right up which is great because they are on ebay for 275 bucks and make the same as fast, so thats a real savings there which is plus. I just whish they they would have made a smaller 62 cc version. Guess only time will tell. will be watching this one closely.
I will be able to give you more details once our dyno testing is done and we are closer to production. I will keep you informed.
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So will they out perform a cathedral port 245?
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Originally Posted by slowride
So will they out perform a cathedral port 245?
I think they will.

Same size 2.10" valve that flows more air everywhere, therefore has a higher coefficient of discharge, which seems to be key for a street head.

12 degree valve angle rather than a 13.5 degree.

Uses lightweight LS7 rockers with 1.8 ratio, as opposed to heavy 1.7 aftermarket rockers required for the current 245's.

I'm betting they will have .030"-.040" more P to V than stock LS3 heads.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Subscribed. My interest is road racing.
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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what about their flow ??
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1773
what about their flow ??
read 1 or 2 pages back it has all that info. However it doesn't state what size test bore it was done on.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Was at PRI today
Didn't see any new heads?
Did I miss something?
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