Perfect street-manner cam for a high-comp 416 with L92 heads?
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On the way to work yesterday, my car (2005 C6) starts making a loud ticking sound. :-( After determining the ticking sound was coming from the engine I had the car towed to a GM dealership. Driver head was pulled and a lifter from cylinder 3 was the culprit. Looks like the roller portion of the lifter seized? That particular cam lobe is now scarred and the GM tech has advised the cam should be replaced.
If I can get this car running again, I will most likely be parting ways with it. Now that I need to buy a new cam I am thinking it makes sense to go with a perfect-street-manner cam to ease the burden of trying to trade-in / sell a modified car?
Considering the engine details below (and the desire for perfect street manners) would anyone be able to provide some insight as to what sort of cam I should be ordering? Or perhaps suggest a vendor I should call to get this sorted out? With the car in the shop (and me in a rental) I am really hoping to get this sorted out in a short period of time. :-)
Engine details:
LS3 Aluminum, 418 CI, 6 Bolt Main (ARP studs), 9.240" block deck height, 4.080" bore, 11.87 SCR, 8.52 DCR
Wiseco 2618 forged flat-Top pistons, 4.078", -0.005 piston to block deck height, -4cc valve reliefs
Total Seal AP Advanced Profiling steel-top & napier 2nd ring set
Callies CompStar forged crank, 4.00" stroke
Callies CompStar forged Connecting H beam Rods, 6.125" length, 2.100" crank pin, .927" wrist pin, ARP 2000 Rod Bolts).
L92 heads, milled 0.030, 65 CC chamber
LS3 GM MLS 0.051" gasket, bore diameter 4.100"
Comp 921 spring kit
Comp Cam 230 XFI (.612) / 234 XER (.598), 117 LSA
Ported LS3 intake
Manley hardened 7.375" pushrods
Clevite "H" series race rod and main bearings
Durabond cam bearings
PowerBond underdrive pulley
LG Pro Longtube headers (hi-flow cats)
Corsa Xtreme catback
DTE Stage 1, 4.10 rear diff
Vararam CAI
NGK TR6 (0.035 gap) spark plugs
If I can get this car running again, I will most likely be parting ways with it. Now that I need to buy a new cam I am thinking it makes sense to go with a perfect-street-manner cam to ease the burden of trying to trade-in / sell a modified car?
Considering the engine details below (and the desire for perfect street manners) would anyone be able to provide some insight as to what sort of cam I should be ordering? Or perhaps suggest a vendor I should call to get this sorted out? With the car in the shop (and me in a rental) I am really hoping to get this sorted out in a short period of time. :-)
Engine details:
LS3 Aluminum, 418 CI, 6 Bolt Main (ARP studs), 9.240" block deck height, 4.080" bore, 11.87 SCR, 8.52 DCR
Wiseco 2618 forged flat-Top pistons, 4.078", -0.005 piston to block deck height, -4cc valve reliefs
Total Seal AP Advanced Profiling steel-top & napier 2nd ring set
Callies CompStar forged crank, 4.00" stroke
Callies CompStar forged Connecting H beam Rods, 6.125" length, 2.100" crank pin, .927" wrist pin, ARP 2000 Rod Bolts).
L92 heads, milled 0.030, 65 CC chamber
LS3 GM MLS 0.051" gasket, bore diameter 4.100"
Comp 921 spring kit
Comp Cam 230 XFI (.612) / 234 XER (.598), 117 LSA
Ported LS3 intake
Manley hardened 7.375" pushrods
Clevite "H" series race rod and main bearings
Durabond cam bearings
PowerBond underdrive pulley
LG Pro Longtube headers (hi-flow cats)
Corsa Xtreme catback
DTE Stage 1, 4.10 rear diff
Vararam CAI
NGK TR6 (0.035 gap) spark plugs
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I think an issue with "street manners" is that in many ways it is subjective. I.e. what is considered "perfect" by us (and by "us" I mean enthusiasts) is quite possibly different than what a non-enthusiast would think.
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I would probably suggest a 231/239 115+3 for your car.
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I think your cam idea is excellent.
If I place a XER 224/234 115 into a DCR calculator I end up with:
DCR = 8.81
If the LSA is bumped up to 118 I would end up with a 8.56 DCR and overlap would be decreased even more to -7. Your thoughts?
Would a LS7 cam work? I have the same thread posted at CF and some very kind people have offered to provide me with a LS7 cam. I haven't been able to find the 0.006 specs for that cam though. Another forum member figures the resulting DCR for a LS7 cam on my car would be 7.54 (which sounds like it might be too low?).
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If you're going to sell it, I'd put in a stock LS7 cam and call it good. The next owner will want to put in their own cam anyway so you might as well have it mild.
If you were to keep it and wanted to give it more stock-like street manners, I'd install a 226/234 .598/.602" 119LSA +2 advance cam. It would make 20 more rwhp than the LS7 cam and have perfectly wonderful street manners.
If you were to keep it and wanted to give it more stock-like street manners, I'd install a 226/234 .598/.602" 119LSA +2 advance cam. It would make 20 more rwhp than the LS7 cam and have perfectly wonderful street manners.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
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If you're going to sell it, I'd put in a stock LS7 cam and call it good. The next owner will want to put in their own cam anyway so you might as well have it mild.
If you were to keep it and wanted to give it more stock-like street manners, I'd install a 226/234 .598/.602" 119LSA +2 advance cam. It would make 20 more rwhp than the LS7 cam and have perfectly wonderful street manners.
If you were to keep it and wanted to give it more stock-like street manners, I'd install a 226/234 .598/.602" 119LSA +2 advance cam. It would make 20 more rwhp than the LS7 cam and have perfectly wonderful street manners.
Which lobes are those? The closest match I could find were XER lobes?
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Negative. Those are endurance lobes from Engine Power Systems.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.