Update: KATECH Value 427 LS3 engine 605hp/575ft-lbs!
10-26-2011, 03:32 PM
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Update: KATECH Value 427 LS3 engine 605hp/575ft-lbs! We have wrapped up durability testing of the new Value 427 LS3 engine that will replace the old Value 427 LS2, Value 402, and Value 416. We learned some surprising things during the durability test that we will be sharing in the future, a result of which has brought a more durable package to the table that is offered nowhere else.
The first few engines are being assembled now and we are taking orders. The engine will be sold in a short block form, or if you want us to take the build further we can build a long block or complete engine. We have developed a camshaft that has met the power goal of 600hp and will be the standard for Value 427 long block and complete engine packages. Above you can see the dyno graph from our testing. These figures were reached with the production intake manifold, so gains could be greater with a FAST manifold.
For more information or if you would like to place an order, please contact us. Stay tuned for more detailed information on exact pricing.
The first few engines are being assembled now and we are taking orders. The engine will be sold in a short block form, or if you want us to take the build further we can build a long block or complete engine. We have developed a camshaft that has met the power goal of 600hp and will be the standard for Value 427 long block and complete engine packages. Above you can see the dyno graph from our testing. These figures were reached with the production intake manifold, so gains could be greater with a FAST manifold.
For more information or if you would like to place an order, please contact us. Stay tuned for more detailed information on exact pricing.
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We have wrapped up durability testing of the new Value 427 LS3 engine that will replace the old Value 427 LS2, Value 402, and Value 416. We learned some surprising things during the durability test that we will be sharing in the future, a result of which has brought a more durable package to the table that is offered nowhere else.
The first few engines are being assembled now and we are taking orders. The engine will be sold in a short block form, or if you want us to take the build further we can build a long block or complete engine. We have developed a camshaft that has met the power goal of 600hp and will be the standard for Value 427 long block and complete engine packages. Above you can see the dyno graph from our testing. These figures were reached with the production intake manifold, so gains could be greater with a FAST manifold.
The first few engines are being assembled now and we are taking orders. The engine will be sold in a short block form, or if you want us to take the build further we can build a long block or complete engine. We have developed a camshaft that has met the power goal of 600hp and will be the standard for Value 427 long block and complete engine packages. Above you can see the dyno graph from our testing. These figures were reached with the production intake manifold, so gains could be greater with a FAST manifold.
Jason,
Because the torque curve falls off 2,700 rpms and 4,000 rpms, would you also show us the BSFC curve so we can better understand?
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Brake Specific Fuel Consumption
Jim McFarland
Whether you're an engine builder or engaged in testing them on an engine dynamometer, a clear and working understanding of Brake-Specific Fuel Consumption (BSFC) can be of value. The broader category includes parts designers and those interested in evaluating power level changes involving parts or modifications. In one way or another, any changes in power, positive or negative, can be linked to combustion efficiency. And, simply stated, BSFC is keyed to this as well. Despite previous discussions about the subject, we'll expand on it a bit in this presentation.
Now, although this article is not intended to include an array of mathematical calculations in support of the information provided, it's worth noting how to compute BSFC because that will help in understanding the importance of its numerical relationships. In the English system of units, the computation involves fuel flow in pounds per hour (pph) and observed horsepower (uncorrected for barometric pressure and inlet air temperature). Arithmetically, if we divide fuel flow by observed horsepower, the units of measure will be pounds/horsepower-hour. That's the academic perspective.
As a practical matter, BSFC is a measure of how efficiently a given amount of fuel is being converted into a specific amount of horsepower. More broadly stated, it could also be considered a measure of combustion efficiency, and that's key to our discussion, but first we need to include some thoughts about a related subject.
Regardless of the type of fuel being used, it has a specific energy content for a given volume. That means if we were to burn all the fuel and capture all the heat delivered during any particular combustion cycle, we would have extracted the maximum amount of potential horsepower. Unfortunately, the internal combustion engine is not an efficient one. And while you can expect certain percentages of energy content will be lost to the exhaust and cooling systems, they can run in the range of a 20-25 percent loss to each system, in the best of cases.
It's not uncommon for these percentages to be higher. So the objective in building, modifying, or tuning a racing engine is to minimize these unavoidable losses. For example, thermal coatings intended to reduce heat losses to the cooling system are attempts to increase the amount of energy focused in the combustion space. The same applies to coating major exhaust system components, like headers. This makes sense.
Stated another way, we're talking about improving an engine's thermal efficiency by minimizing heat losses, particularly to the cooling and exhaust systems. As this is accomplished, power stands to increase, and we need a way to evaluate what's going on in the combustion space. This brings us full circle and back to using BSFC as the yardstick. Short of conducting in-cylinder pressure analysis tests that are comparatively more expensive and complex than considering BSFC data, how do we do this?
First, let's consider a practical example. Suppose we're evaluating a gasoline-fueled racing powerplant on an engine dynamometer. At wide-open throttle, full load, and constant rpm - using race gas, the chemically correct baseline BSFC some time ago was considered to be 0.500 pounds of fuel flow/horsepower-hour.
As engine builders and modifiers refined ways to improve both thermal and combustion efficiency by methods that included combustion chamber shapes, piston crown designs, exhaust system efficiency, and related areas, the original standard for gasoline decreased to somewhere only slightly north of 0.400. This meant that improved combustion was allowing the same amount of fuel to produce an increase in power - e.g., combustion efficiency improved. As a result, BSFC was reduced.
Right about here, it might be worthwhile to note something. Let's say we have two engines of approximately equal power. That is to say their respective torque and horsepower curves are quite similar. It happens with some frequency. However, one exhibits a BSFC curve with values lower than the other engine. It turns out that the one with the lower BSFC curve will accelerate more quickly than the other, once on the track - all else being equal. It will also be more responsive to changes affecting combustion efficiency as well and will very likely require less total spark timing to perform at its best. On-track fuel economy will also be superior.
Overall, there are some truths and there seems to have been a bit if misunderstanding about what BSFC data are actually indicating. For example, if an engine is experiencing an inordinate (maybe even some) combustion contamination from residue (exhaust gas) left in the combustion space during succeeding combustion events, BSFC data generally increase numerically.
In such cases, exhaust gas temperatures (EGT) tends to trend downward. This is often accompanied by the necessity for additional fuel and more spark timing, in an attempt to resolve the problem. Conditions like this simply mean the contamination problem requires correcting.
One approach I observed a number of years ago and found to be helpful is the following method of using BSFC as a tool. Since an engine tends to be the most combustion efficient at or near peak torque, it will save wear and tear on an expensive engine (or even one not as expensive) to perform initial spark and fuel calibration tests at peak torque. There is a reason why BSFC tends to be numerically the lowest at this point, but we'll get to that in a moment.
By using this method, it's possible to minimize the engine's test burden but make possible the pinpointing of the best - lowest - BSFC by adjusting spark and fuel separately. First, find the best spark setting. Then you can adjust fuel flow until the lowest BSFC is determined without an attending loss in power.
Ideally, you'd like to create a flat BSFC curve, but that's not entirely possible. What you can do is work toward establishing that condition, using the value of BSFC at peak torque as your target. However, a couple of conditions play into any attempt at flattening a BSFC curve. Among them is the fact that at engine speeds below peak torque, there's an increased amount of time for heat losses to the cooling system and related parts and passages. And especially if the engine is using a carburetor, air/fuel charge quality tends suffer from less efficient atomization (mixing) at these engine speeds than higher rpm.
Beyond peak torque, there is the issue of mechanical separation of air and fuel as signified by a corresponding rise in BSFC values. In other words, combustion efficiency tends to deteriorate, accordingly. Plus, in the higher rpm ranges, while there is an increase in the amount of otherwise useable heat from combustion, high rpm shortens the time available to deliver that heat, resulting in a loss in power.
So there you have it. Given contemporary technology and equipment available to qualify and quantify the combustion process, using BSFC analysis has become somewhat of a poor man's method of tuning or modifying a racing engine, but it works and is far more economical than some of the other methods. Just keep in mind that it can also be useful when evaluating parts of modifications that relate the combustion process. Although that was previously mentioned, the technique can be a valuable approach to determining the best package of engine components and level of tune before you head to the track.
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Way to belittle people (that means making them feel inferior(that means, aw f*** it)). Let me guess, you work at some random company where you sit and watch dyno cells all day?
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what the heck is with all the drama in this thread suddenly???!
Federal Mogul has a facility there in Northville? :shrug:
had a friend who worked there some time ago...
Federal Mogul has a facility there in Northville? :shrug:
had a friend who worked there some time ago...
