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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:51 AM
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My friend is doing a cam/spring/timing chain swap on his l99 camaro, would it be worth it to upgrade to an aftermarket oil pump? Thanks guys!
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Anyone?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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not worth it, if anything i would take it out and hand port it a little bit just my .02
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You can't just throw any pump on those L99's unless he's converting to an Ls3 IIRC they have a bigger pump already due to all the oil it must pump to the dod lifters etc etc. if you can use any Ls pump then I'd get a melling pump. Only because your going in there so why not upgrade to a better one.

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Ok i'll have him look into the melling, thanks guys.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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The following is a graph of the flow of the stock LS oil pump versus three Melling oil pumps. If you aren't going to increase the load on your main bearings, rod bearings, and piston shirts, and you aren't going to turn the motor over 6,200 rpms you don't need an improved flow oil pump.




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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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its easy while doing the cam swap, might as well
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What's what I always say.
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Originally Posted by Pumba
The following is a graph of the flow of the stock LS oil pump versus three Melling oil pumps. If you aren't going to increase the load on your main bearings, rod bearings, and piston shirts, and you aren't going to turn the motor over 6,200 rpms you don't need an improved flow oil pump.

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Good post. One of the few times I've ever seen actual evidence-based information posted.
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I wonder if those numbers for the LS pump in the graph would sustain longer if ported, or if its just a simple volume problem? Eric L
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For the money and piece of mind I bought the ported and shimmed one from TSP.
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Originally Posted by Pumba
The following is a graph of the flow of the stock LS oil pump versus three Melling oil pumps. If you aren't going to increase the load on your main bearings, rod bearings, and piston shirts, and you aren't going to turn the motor over 6,200 rpms you don't need an improved flow oil pump.




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Hi Pumba,

Do you know who and how those data were generated?

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Gotta post that source!
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi Pumba,

Do you know who and how those data were generated?

Christian

The oil pump flow data was provided to me by an OEM oil pump supplier - Identity withheld at their request.

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