396 cid lq4/9?
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396 cid lq4/9? I have seen 370,390,402,413 and 427 cid stroker setups for the LQ4 or 9 but not a 396 why is this?
I hear the LQ4/9 block can be overbored +.060 so it doesn't seem to be a block issue.
4.060 bore with a 3.825 stroke forged pistons , rods and crank, 10.25-10.7:1 CR, N2O cam, Procomp or other Aftermarket LS3 heads,Holley Tunnel Ram(LS3 type) with a Blower type hat, EFI injectors would this make 460-520 RWHP on 91-93 octane fuel?
I hear the LQ4/9 block can be overbored +.060 so it doesn't seem to be a block issue.
4.060 bore with a 3.825 stroke forged pistons , rods and crank, 10.25-10.7:1 CR, N2O cam, Procomp or other Aftermarket LS3 heads,Holley Tunnel Ram(LS3 type) with a Blower type hat, EFI injectors would this make 460-520 RWHP on 91-93 octane fuel?
I have seen 370,390,402,413 and 427 cid stroker setups for the LQ4 or 9 but not a 396 why is this?
I hear the LQ4/9 block can be overbored +.060 so it doesn't seem to be a block issue.
4.060 bore with a 3.825 stroke forged pistons , rods and crank, 10.25-10.7:1 CR, N2O cam, Procomp or other Aftermarket LS3 heads,Holley Tunnel Ram(LS3 type) with a Blower type hat, EFI injectors would this make 460-520 RWHP on 91-93 octane fuel?
I hear the LQ4/9 block can be overbored +.060 so it doesn't seem to be a block issue.
4.060 bore with a 3.825 stroke forged pistons , rods and crank, 10.25-10.7:1 CR, N2O cam, Procomp or other Aftermarket LS3 heads,Holley Tunnel Ram(LS3 type) with a Blower type hat, EFI injectors would this make 460-520 RWHP on 91-93 octane fuel?
If I were buildin a 6.0 it would be a 427 That combo does a streetable 650hp @ the crank 
IF I blow up the 396 ltx Thats what Im buildin for my 95 ram air t/a Theres no replacement for displacement So do the 427 & be done with it LoL Youll thank me later
IF I blow up the 396 ltx Thats what Im buildin for my 95 ram air t/a Theres no replacement for displacement So do the 427 & be done with it LoL Youll thank me later Trending Topics
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but not a 396 why is this?
What's the point of spending all that money on a custom stroke crank? Just so you can say you have a 396?
I'll take a cheap, reliable and easily available 4" crank over a custom and expensive 3.825 crank.
Because noone makes a 3.825 crank and has it on the shelf to be bought. 4" cranks are easily available and cheap, so most people go with that or stay stock stroke.
What's the point of spending all that money on a custom stroke crank? Just so you can say you have a 396?
I'll take a cheap, reliable and easily available 4" crank over a custom and expensive 3.825 crank.
What's the point of spending all that money on a custom stroke crank? Just so you can say you have a 396?
I'll take a cheap, reliable and easily available 4" crank over a custom and expensive 3.825 crank.
and honestly, with the 3.9 inch cranks being the same prices as the 4 inch cranks why more people dont go with them than you see.
but there is more than one way to hit 396 cubes.
There's a reason why the certain engine sizes he mentioned are very popular and you don't see many 396s. It's because both pistons and crank are mass produced, thus being easily available and cheap.
Sure the 3.9 crank is available off the shelf, but then the piston is not.
Either way he can make that magical 396 if he so chooses. I just answered to his question as to why there are many 402s, 408s etc and not so many 396s.
and honestly, with the 3.9 inch cranks being the same prices as the 4 inch cranks why more people dont go with them than you see.
If you could walk in a store and buy a 40" TV for the same exact price as a 39" TV (all other specs being the same), would you be surprised that the 40" TV would be more popular? It's the same here...more cubes for the same price. Unless someone has a hardon for a specific cube output, a normal person would buy the 4" because it's more cubes for the money.
If you must just build a 402 & call it a 396 I drove myself crazy over 5.85 vs 6in rod for spray & after talkin to all the good piston manufacturng tech ppl Im goin with a 6in on my ltx IF I go direct port I can still spray 3 or 400 Thats on a 600hp motor Do you need more??? Doubt it LoL A 402 lsx will be mean but a 427 or 454 is A lot better off the bottle & even better on A 3.875 crank & 4.030 bore = 395.4 cu in So Im sure a 3.9 crank & a 4in bore will getcha close!!!!
Redtan, I agree more cubes is better for the same money. Obviously, his question as why you don't see them is answered, but he obviously has an interest in building a 396 for some reason or another, so I'm trying to help him get that and not steering him away from it like you Are.
4.020 pistons are shelf items and plenty of vendors can get them, they just don't stock them for reasons you already stated.
If he truly wants a 396, he can have it for the same price as a 408, 383...etc. but I'm not going to sit here and bash his ideas, I'm going to help him. That is what ls1tech is all about and over The last 5 years, it has strayed far from that.
4.020 pistons are shelf items and plenty of vendors can get them, they just don't stock them for reasons you already stated.
If he truly wants a 396, he can have it for the same price as a 408, 383...etc. but I'm not going to sit here and bash his ideas, I'm going to help him. That is what ls1tech is all about and over The last 5 years, it has strayed far from that.
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Redtan, I agree more cubes is better for the same money. Obviously, his question as why you don't see them is answered, but he obviously has an interest in building a 396 for some reason or another, so I'm trying to help him get that and not steering him away from it like you Are.
If he truly wants a 396, he can have it for the same price as a 408, 383...etc. but I'm not going to sit here and bash his ideas, I'm going to help him. That is what ls1tech is all about and over The last 5 years, it has strayed far from that.
If he truly wants a 396, he can have it for the same price as a 408, 383...etc. but I'm not going to sit here and bash his ideas, I'm going to help him. That is what ls1tech is all about and over The last 5 years, it has strayed far from that.
What sparked the interest was a set of SS 396 emblems I saw in a Chevy mag but a 402 or 408 maybe easier to do.
I am glad with the LS engines there is more than one way to do it right 370,390,402,413,427 from a LQ4/9 block.
Also I believe Callies sells a 3.825 crank for use with a +.030 block ie a 390 cid.
Last edited by N2OBaby; Mar 30, 2012 at 08:22 AM. Reason: More ideas.
What sparked the interest was a set of SS 396 emblems I saw in a Chevy mag but a 402 or 408 maybe easier to do.
I am glad with the LS engines there is more than one way to do it right 370,390,402,413,427 from a LQ4/9 block.
Also I believe Callies sells a 3.825 crank for use with a +.030 block ie a 390 cid.
I am glad with the LS engines there is more than one way to do it right 370,390,402,413,427 from a LQ4/9 block.
Also I believe Callies sells a 3.825 crank for use with a +.030 block ie a 390 cid.
just noticed that.
anyways, if your set on 396 cubes, by all means, go for it. it would be the same price roughly. with the 3.900 crank, a 6.125 rod and a custom 4.020 piston if for some reason one is not readily avaliable for a 3.900 crank you can make killer power and still have room to spray it. if you have to get a custom piston, it's usually 50 bucks over the cost of a set of 8 shelf pistons. I say go for it. a 396 LS would be really cool.