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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Not talking valves to guides. Push rods with out oil or coatings would be a mess.

The weight in a pr is never going to hurt like deflection will.

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Reduce the weight of the valve train parts and keep the revs down to 6,800 and you can reduce the strength of the valve springs. That will allow a thinner pushrod without deflection.

Don't most pushrods transfer oil to the top of the motor? Doesn't seem they would be lacking in lubrication. They probably would need to be three piece with the ends of a different material. Ti valves have steel (i believe they are steel) lash caps where the rocker arms ride.

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Pushrod weight isn't as big of a deal that was once thought years ago. Look at an engine that turns 10K it has tree trunks in it. Most of the valve train weight that matters is after the fulcrum point of the rocker.
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Originally Posted by good2go
Apples and oranges. 6,800 rpm Vs 9,000+ rpm (double the rpm gives quadruple the load)
Why aren't they using solid titanium pushrods? It would be twice the strength and half the weight, right? Millions spent in R&D and they still use steel.
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Originally Posted by good2go
Reduce the weight of the valve train parts and keep the revs down to 6,800 and you can reduce the strength of the valve springs. That will allow a thinner pushrod without deflection.

Don't most pushrods transfer oil to the top of the motor? Doesn't seem they would be lacking in lubrication. They probably would need to be three piece with the ends of a different material. Ti valves have steel (i believe they are steel) lash caps where the rocker arms ride.
Some teams used, or may still use, solid pushrods and routed oil to the rockers/pushrod tip interface through external lines.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Great theory now get some R&D and sell the heck out of them. Lifters could be made of Ti also even less weight.

Call Manton I am sure they would be willing to help you with your venture.

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