Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

ported 243 head vs aftermarket

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 07:35 PM
  #1  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default ported 243 head vs aftermarket

looking to possibly upgrade my head package. have cnc'd ls6 243's and iv read plent of articles on tfs 235s and what not. just curious what i could maybe sell the cnc'd 243s for to put money towards the better head. looking for best head for the buck. 203s, 215s, 235s, ect. just needing info. and what kind diff power gains.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 07:39 PM
  #2  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

The heads depend on your setup what would be ideal. What are you looking to gain?
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 07:49 PM
  #3  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

just trying to have the best heads i can for my ls6 383. 11.5cr, 235/247@.050 and 620/624 lift 114 lsa. i hear u can gain anywehre from 20-60rwhp with a head change.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 09:55 PM
  #4  
batboy's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 2
From: middle of nowhere, Kansas
Default

For your bore size, you want Trick FLow CNC 215 or as cast 220.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 10:15 PM
  #5  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Youre not gonna get anywhere near 60rwhp with any head swap for your case. 20 maybe 30 would be a more realistic idea of what you could gain.

Tfs 225 (pretty sure theres a small bore option) otherwise the 215s
Afr 210 or 230
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 08:39 PM
  #6  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

so u guys dont think i need the 235's or whatever one is wanting to get but to expensive. reason im asking this is bc i see all these posts of better heads on built motors. since im already wanting to go to a fast 102 and nw 102tb and 42 lb injectors. might as well change heads to. maybe il see the 60 wrhp gain mark? maybe more? curious also the price of the 215s?? i do want cncd. its what i have now to cncd 243s. i like.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:16 PM
  #7  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Youre not gonna gain 60whp from heads. If you had stock 241s or something yea maybe, but coming from a ported head already isnt gonna happen.

Check the 235s I think they have a minimum bore of 4.030
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:24 PM
  #8  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

i seen anther post the 210-215s are for ls1/ls6, the 215 and bigger are for ls2 and the 235s are for ls3 and bigger.. for the bore applications. so that makes me think if i can only go to the 215s for the biggest. how much money would i be out of buying those and would it really make a diff from my cncd 243s? i know alot of questions but im stil learning the differences to the heads
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:27 PM
  #9  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

I know the 235s will fit a 4.030 bore because I was looking at them, ls3 is 4.060 bore.

Anyway, look at a few of these options. Ballistic Speed has some ls3 heads with new valves etc for smaller bore applications, they may be worth looking into.
AFR 210 TFS 215 PRC 227

But you could potentially gain 20-30
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:30 PM
  #10  
MattKatz's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

Im an Idiot....Had a brain Freeze....Carry on.

Last edited by MattKatz; Feb 28, 2013 at 10:27 PM. Reason: because Im an idiot.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:32 PM
  #11  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Originally Posted by MattKatz
LS3 is not 4.060.....Its 4.030.

No, its 4.060
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:42 PM
  #12  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

i dont have a ls3 guys. just a ls6 383. just needing help with pricing and what would be best bang for the buck kinda thing. money not really a issue. but im not going to just throw money away ya know
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:02 PM
  #13  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Youre going to get gains across the board. Look at the afr 210, tfs 215 they both will be very similar.

Also go to ballistic speeds website and look at those reworked ls3 heads. They had a dyno of a 383 that put down over 500rwhp with them.

Go look. Now!
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:06 PM
  #14  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

i just seen a post a guy using 225s. and put down 537 holy ****. https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...leashed-2.html.. go look at this
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:20 PM
  #15  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

As long as they fit your small bore. They may be 4.0+
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:26 PM
  #16  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

that would be bad axx **** to hit those numbers. id be stoked and happy. he did have a fast intake and big mouth tb. so top end kit and heads look very interesting. just curious what 225s would run. or if anyones selling a set.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:29 PM
  #17  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

Well heres several things you need to take into account.

Most of these heads are bronze valve guides. You must use roller rockers or it voids your warranty. If you dont you will have premature valve guide wear. Now some do offer the option of powdered metal guides to run factory rockers. Factory rockers with the trunion upgrade are pretty damn good.

These heads start about $2300+
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:37 PM
  #18  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

yeah iv heard the trunion upgrade is pretty legit. easy to replace urself also. and no small needle bearings in oil pan lol. i dont mind using roller rockers if i need to. if ima spend the money on good aftermarket heads i dont mind spending few extra bucks. and those heads this other guy was using was trick flows 225s. so how much u think i can get my ls6 cncd heads for? kinda help with the up grade..
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:42 PM
  #19  
Tainted's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 2
From: Indianapolis
Default

If you buy roller rockers get a really good set. Theres a lot of failures by the cheaper ones. Jesel is nice but top dollar.

I think you could get about 1000 - 1200
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:51 PM
  #20  
ws6guy27's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 479
Likes: 1
From: my house
Default

never heard of that brand. what do they run? and im really getting excited about this new thread and reading about that other guys 383. maybe i can try to sell the heads,rockers intake n rails, tb, and injectors for .... give me estimated price if ya dont mind or if u may know someone. shoot me a message in my inbox. so the afr 225s? or the trick flow 225s? tisk tisk
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:57 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE