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Melling 10296 idles 50psi @ 205*F, increases psi with rpm.. how much is too much?

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Old 05-02-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Pressure you see is directly related to the bearing clearance. A high flow pump simply moves more oil and depends on the bearing clearance for the pressure you see on your gauge. The "high pressure" pumps are related to the bypass spring. The 10295 is no where near as thick as the 10296, because the gerotor in the 10296 is like 23% larger and thus moves a lot more oil.

The only way to add pressure is to increase oil volume for a given clearance or change the clearances.
Just digging this back up searching through older threads on these pumps and noticed the 23%. Summit and and a few others are still saying the 10296 has 25% more volume than the standard LS pump or the 10295. This 25% is coming from the old SBC HV pump. The 10296 only has 18% more volume.

From Melling

10296



•High volume performance upgrade for M295.
•18% increase in volume over M295 and 10295 oil pump.
•The cast aluminum housing is CNC machined and hardcoat anodized.
•The cast iron cover is CNC machined and phosphate coated.
•The relief valve features a screw in valve plug with the optional lower stock spring supplied.
•Uses stock 1-1/4” bolt on screen.
Old 05-03-2013, 11:32 AM
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I was close. The Synergy I have claims 23% based off the GM L99 Pump.
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No issues here with the 10296 and with the red spring left on. It's only an 18% higher flow than stock. I've had it since 2008 since I was cam only to heads n cam to the stroker I have now. You'll be fine, they are good pumps.
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Originally Posted by litle88
No issues here with the 10296 and with the red spring left on. It's only an 18% higher flow than stock. I've had it since 2008 since I was cam only to heads n cam to the stroker I have now. You'll be fine, they are good pumps.
What kind of pressures are you running?
Old 05-04-2013, 01:55 PM
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~48/50 Idle hot

Wot ~72/74

Using 20/50 vr1 non synthetic per AES, they built my shortblock.
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Sorry I was wrong I just looked at it.

~42 hot at 200

WOT was about right. Sorry about that.
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Originally Posted by litle88
Sorry I was wrong I just looked at it.

~42 hot at 200

WOT was about right. Sorry about that.
Those are good pressures, thanks. May leave red spring in.
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http://www.dragzine.com/news/darts-l...-system-tests/

Dart claims 18 GPM

This is what I was told buy Tim at the Car Shop Inc in the testing that they did
The pump I have on my car is about 17.5 to 19 gpm
Here is a data log of what mine looks like on a pass with 6.5 quarts and it has a huge filter with a remote lines.

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An iron GM block will use about 3.5gpm at 230F 6000rpm. The aluminum blocks will use about 6gpm at the same 230f 6000rpm. With a solid roller and slightly lower temps it would not surprise me if the Dart could get down around 2gpm as it is priority main oiling.

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Originally Posted by Gray86hatch


http://www.dragzine.com/news/darts-l...-system-tests/

Dart claims 18 GPM

This is what I was told buy Tim at the Car Shop Inc in the testing that they did
The pump I have on my car is about 17.5 to 19 gpm
Here is a data log of what mine looks like on a pass with 6.5 quarts and it has a huge filter with a remote lines.

That's good data, so your oil pressure is showing a gradual drop, even though you are still at 80 psi, I guess as the engine and oil temp go up the oil begins to get thinner making it go down ever so slightly.

The 10296 still shows to be a good upgrade, but that DOD pump is really moving some oil. Wonder why Melling is saying not to use it as a performance oil pump?
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Gray86hatch

Good info man as always!



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