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Old 10-29-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 427zm
OP, hope it was money well spent... Let me know if/when you meet up w/ Millenium, I'll meet up at a track too if it's possible for me. Typical HCI LS7 here putting down 583/526.
Sure thing!!!!!! Love to run you... typical auto here.. Any timeslips so far? ... just curious.
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Looks like a z owner gonna be crying at the end of all this. Lol.
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Originally Posted by 96vortechSS
Looks like a z owner gonna be crying at the end of all this. Lol.
Lol, yep
346 gonna hurt some feelings

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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Lol, yep
346 gonna hurt some feelings
Lol... cheers... better have a big shot on that bad boy
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Lol... cheers... better have a big shot on that bad boy
Nope, N/A. Just idles funny
I will eventually get around to a 200 shot though, maybe by next spring for the RR 5
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Nope, N/A. Just idles funny
I will eventually get around to a 200 shot though, maybe by next spring for the RR 5
Lol, might want to get tgat checked out
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Yeah, I'm N/A, "346" with a cam. I'll have to meet up with you at Coit and 190 one friday night.
I did put a Halltech on though, they said it was worth about 60hp at the wheels, IDK
See you are sandbagging..

"I have 12.2:1 N/A and use 93 pump gas without issue in Texas heat, I make near your goal with a 434 (4.155 x 4.0).

The problem with a 454 (4.185 bore x 4.0 stroke) is the head gasket thickness between the cylinders on spray.
It isn't very thick and you can blow the gasket fairly easy on a 200 shot. The 2nd problem is rebuilds, there's not enough bore materiel left for an over bore if a hone wont clean up the cylinder.

I wouldn't use the 4.1 stroke as gnx7 said because of the side loads and pulling the pistons too far out of the bore, plus 4.1's are generally not recommended with a power adder especially a 200 shot. most builders will tell you no more than a 100 shot, I'd stay with a 4.0 stroke."

Don't care.. Still drag you.. Lol. Seems like you like spray also..

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Originally Posted by xstang
See you are sandbagging..

"I have 12.2:1 N/A and use 93 pump gas without issue in Texas heat, I make near your goal with a 434 (4.155 x 4.0).

The problem with a 454 (4.185 bore x 4.0 stroke) is the head gasket thickness between the cylinders on spray.
It isn't very thick and you can blow the gasket fairly easy on a 200 shot. The 2nd problem is rebuilds, there's not enough bore materiel left for an over bore if a hone wont clean up the cylinder.

I wouldn't use the 4.1 stroke as gnx7 said because of the side loads and pulling the pistons too far out of the bore, plus 4.1's are generally not recommended with a power adder especially a 200 shot. most builders will tell you no more than a 100 shot, I'd stay with a 4.0 stroke."

Don't care.. Still drag you.. Lol. Seems like you like spray also.. Ill be sure to hook up a bottle..
Lol. Maybe, maybe not

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Defiantly wont be a cake walk for ya though
I don't have N02 yet though, have the nano tanks and controller but the front half yet

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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Lol. Maybe, maybe not



Defiantly wont be a cake walk for ya though
I don't have N02 yet though, have the nano tanks and controller but the front half yet
I'm sure it won't but I love my chances putting the power through a stalled auto... Key for you will be the 60'...
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I'm on DR's 24/7 and have no issues with C7s using launch control or awd cars plus I usually run down anyone that does 60 foot me, torque does that.

About to switch to MT et streets though.
We'll see though, should be fun.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
I'm on DR's 24/7 and have no issues with C7s using launch control or awd cars plus I usually run down anyone that does 60 foot me, torque does that.

About to switch to MT et streets though.
We'll see though, should be fun.
yup ... What are you running in the 1/4?
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Haven't been to the track yet on the new combo but with a blackwing only I was 11.8's at 119

Ran a nitrous C7 claiming high 10's, got him by about 8
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Haven't been to the track yet on the new combo but with a blackwing only I was 11.8's at 119

Ran a nitrous C7 claiming high 10's, got him by about 8
Here are my timeslips with 440Rwhp. 1100+ DA.. I'm 112
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Nothing Great I think you wasted your money sending your car there when you have a lot of great shops by you
Like this one
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A bit of a let down but very puzzled and looking for answers...

we should have made 550-560 vs 470-480... We're missing out on almost 100RWHP.. Compression is 11.2:1 running from front to back...varamar air intake, speed density tune so we have a 4.25" coupler from intake to NW102 throttle body no restriction what so ever. From NW102 it goes into the MSD airforce Intake ( debuted at SEMA 2014 and is said to make more power than the fast 102 due to flow technology?? ) Then we get into engine as it was blue printed by halston at Hsquared racing in Houston Tx, from there we have a monster stage 5 clutch with light weight flywheel, 1 7/8 headers into X pipe and into BB bullet exhaust ( no restriction ) car has 4:10 gears for low end torque.





are you sure? maybe! but which one 100%
why take a chance

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I didn't want to poo poo his build but... yeah. Plenty of shots here could have exceeded that.
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There's likely more to that build/story and I doubt its HSquared Bret (BlownBlueZ06) has an HSquared motor as do a lot of cars he's built and they all make power.

Who did the heads and what are they? A Texas shop did mine and you see the dyno.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
There's likely more to that build/story and I doubt its HSquared Bret (BlownBlueZ06) has an HSquared motor as do a lot of cars he's built and they all make power.

Who did the heads and what are they? A Texas shop did mine and you see the dyno.
Cartek did the heads and they hold several records.. Dyno sheets don't mean ****. Let's see some track results (-:
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
There's likely more to that build/story and I doubt its HSquared Bret (BlownBlueZ06) has an HSquared motor as do a lot of cars he's built and they all make power.

Who did the heads and what are they? A Texas shop did mine and you see the dyno.
This car from Cartek ran a 9.8 .. Auto 430 ci .. Doesn't look impressive on the dyno.. My guess is you will never sniff 9's.. Lmao .. Nothing but a dyno queen!!
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Originally Posted by xstang
This car from Cartek ran a 9.8 .. Auto 430 ci .. Doesn't look impressive on the dyno.. My guess is you will never sniff 9's.. Lmao .. Nothing but a dyno queen!!
Major difference between the graph above and yours is torque, and lots of it. Your down 35+ ft#'s of peak torque, and I'd bet average torque would be further off. Please do not take this as critical commentary, as it is not intended to be... I myself had a ERL 434 running ported LS7's (on my previous car) that didn't perform as it should've and it was due to poorly ported heads by a supposed head porting god. LS7's (and LS3's for that matter) can be screwed up much easier than cathedrals, and when they are, torque suffers immensely. With your cubes you should be well north of 520 ft#'s.

Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Major difference between the graph above and yours is torque, and lots of it. Your down 35+ ft#'s of peak torque, and I'd bet average torque would be further off. Please do not take this as critical commentary, as it is not intended to be... I myself had a ERL 434 running ported LS7's (on my previous car) that didn't perform as it should've and it was due to poorly ported heads by a supposed head porting god. LS7's (and LS3's for that matter) can be screwed up much easier than cathedrals, and when they are, torque suffers immensely. With your cubes you should be well north of 520 ft#'s.

Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
We will see.. What i give up on torque i make up on the top end.. Again, could care less about dyno numbers. Julio thinks it's a solid 9 sec car.. We will see. Sure he knows more than both of us combined.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Major difference between the graph above and yours is torque, and lots of it. Your down 35+ ft#'s of peak torque, and I'd bet average torque would be further off. Please do not take this as critical commentary, as it is not intended to be... I myself had a ERL 434 running ported LS7's (on my previous car) that didn't perform as it should've and it was due to poorly ported heads by a supposed head porting god. LS7's (and LS3's for that matter) can be screwed up much easier than cathedrals, and when they are, torque suffers immensely. With your cubes you should be well north of 520 ft#'s.

Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
Roll footage.... (-: seriously.. Thsts not racing


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