Cartek 454 Stage 5X build - Should start tomorrow
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"I have 12.2:1 N/A and use 93 pump gas without issue in Texas heat, I make near your goal with a 434 (4.155 x 4.0).
The problem with a 454 (4.185 bore x 4.0 stroke) is the head gasket thickness between the cylinders on spray.
It isn't very thick and you can blow the gasket fairly easy on a 200 shot. The 2nd problem is rebuilds, there's not enough bore materiel left for an over bore if a hone wont clean up the cylinder.
I wouldn't use the 4.1 stroke as gnx7 said because of the side loads and pulling the pistons too far out of the bore, plus 4.1's are generally not recommended with a power adder especially a 200 shot. most builders will tell you no more than a 100 shot, I'd stay with a 4.0 stroke."
Don't care.. Still drag you.. Lol. Seems like you like spray also..
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See you are sandbagging..
"I have 12.2:1 N/A and use 93 pump gas without issue in Texas heat, I make near your goal with a 434 (4.155 x 4.0).
The problem with a 454 (4.185 bore x 4.0 stroke) is the head gasket thickness between the cylinders on spray.
It isn't very thick and you can blow the gasket fairly easy on a 200 shot. The 2nd problem is rebuilds, there's not enough bore materiel left for an over bore if a hone wont clean up the cylinder.
I wouldn't use the 4.1 stroke as gnx7 said because of the side loads and pulling the pistons too far out of the bore, plus 4.1's are generally not recommended with a power adder especially a 200 shot. most builders will tell you no more than a 100 shot, I'd stay with a 4.0 stroke."
Don't care.. Still drag you.. Lol. Seems like you like spray also.. Ill be sure to hook up a bottle..
"I have 12.2:1 N/A and use 93 pump gas without issue in Texas heat, I make near your goal with a 434 (4.155 x 4.0).
The problem with a 454 (4.185 bore x 4.0 stroke) is the head gasket thickness between the cylinders on spray.
It isn't very thick and you can blow the gasket fairly easy on a 200 shot. The 2nd problem is rebuilds, there's not enough bore materiel left for an over bore if a hone wont clean up the cylinder.
I wouldn't use the 4.1 stroke as gnx7 said because of the side loads and pulling the pistons too far out of the bore, plus 4.1's are generally not recommended with a power adder especially a 200 shot. most builders will tell you no more than a 100 shot, I'd stay with a 4.0 stroke."
Don't care.. Still drag you.. Lol. Seems like you like spray also.. Ill be sure to hook up a bottle..
Defiantly wont be a cake walk for ya though
I don't have N02 yet though, have the nano tanks and controller but the front half yet
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I'm on DR's 24/7 and have no issues with C7s using launch control or awd cars plus I usually run down anyone that does 60 foot me, torque does that.
About to switch to MT et streets though.
We'll see though, should be fun.
About to switch to MT et streets though.
We'll see though, should be fun.
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A bit of a let down but very puzzled and looking for answers...
we should have made 550-560 vs 470-480... We're missing out on almost 100RWHP.. Compression is 11.2:1 running from front to back...varamar air intake, speed density tune so we have a 4.25" coupler from intake to NW102 throttle body no restriction what so ever. From NW102 it goes into the MSD airforce Intake ( debuted at SEMA 2014 and is said to make more power than the fast 102 due to flow technology?? ) Then we get into engine as it was blue printed by halston at Hsquared racing in Houston Tx, from there we have a monster stage 5 clutch with light weight flywheel, 1 7/8 headers into X pipe and into BB bullet exhaust ( no restriction ) car has 4:10 gears for low end torque.
we should have made 550-560 vs 470-480... We're missing out on almost 100RWHP.. Compression is 11.2:1 running from front to back...varamar air intake, speed density tune so we have a 4.25" coupler from intake to NW102 throttle body no restriction what so ever. From NW102 it goes into the MSD airforce Intake ( debuted at SEMA 2014 and is said to make more power than the fast 102 due to flow technology?? ) Then we get into engine as it was blue printed by halston at Hsquared racing in Houston Tx, from there we have a monster stage 5 clutch with light weight flywheel, 1 7/8 headers into X pipe and into BB bullet exhaust ( no restriction ) car has 4:10 gears for low end torque.
why take a chance
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There's likely more to that build/story and I doubt its HSquared Bret (BlownBlueZ06) has an HSquared motor as do a lot of cars he's built and they all make power.
Who did the heads and what are they? A Texas shop did mine and you see the dyno.
Who did the heads and what are they? A Texas shop did mine and you see the dyno.
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Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
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Major difference between the graph above and yours is torque, and lots of it. Your down 35+ ft#'s of peak torque, and I'd bet average torque would be further off. Please do not take this as critical commentary, as it is not intended to be... I myself had a ERL 434 running ported LS7's (on my previous car) that didn't perform as it should've and it was due to poorly ported heads by a supposed head porting god. LS7's (and LS3's for that matter) can be screwed up much easier than cathedrals, and when they are, torque suffers immensely. With your cubes you should be well north of 520 ft#'s.
Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
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Major difference between the graph above and yours is torque, and lots of it. Your down 35+ ft#'s of peak torque, and I'd bet average torque would be further off. Please do not take this as critical commentary, as it is not intended to be... I myself had a ERL 434 running ported LS7's (on my previous car) that didn't perform as it should've and it was due to poorly ported heads by a supposed head porting god. LS7's (and LS3's for that matter) can be screwed up much easier than cathedrals, and when they are, torque suffers immensely. With your cubes you should be well north of 520 ft#'s.
Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.
Regardless, hope you have fun with it, that's the most important thing. As for mine, no, I do not have any 1/4 slips, but I do have plenty of 60 roll footage from the RR for verification of dyno numbers. Hope you can join in the spring of 2016 for the RR III.